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  • T-bag
    Warming the Bench
    • May 2008
    • 248

    Originally posted by DST
    None of the BBBH incidents were reportable and the MRP have found likewise.

    But it did take the wind out of our sails at the time and had a profound impact on the game.

    DST
    Good on Barry for doing what he did, I think he was hard done by. But come on.... None of the incidents deemed reportable? Beggars belief I reckon. He should at least be up for the 3rd 50 incident. I guess it's the AFL's way of saying, "all this should never have happened in the first place if the umpiring was fair and equitable."

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    • Agent 86
      Senior Player
      • Aug 2004
      • 1686

      Robert Walls has just pretty much said on One week at a time that Baz doesn't deserve to get the benefit of the umpire's doubt in 50-50 decisions. Basically Walls is saying that it's ok that Barry gets a raw deal on the pitch - beacuse he's Barry Hall & he's stuffed up in the past.

      I would expect that each decision needs to be based on the merits of the current event - not on what has transpired in the past.

      Whilst attitudes like Wall's exist, we have a problem.

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16763

        Originally posted by Agent 86
        Whilst attitudes like Wall's exist, we have a problem.

        True, but when the (footy) world starts taking Walls seriously, we have an even bigger problem.

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        • SwansFan1972
          On the Rookie List
          • Nov 2008
          • 621

          Originally posted by Agent 86
          Robert Walls has just pretty much said on One week at a time that Baz doesn't deserve to get the benefit of the umpire's doubt in 50-50 decisions. Basically Walls is saying that it's ok that Barry gets a raw deal on the pitch - beacuse he's Barry Hall & he's stuffed up in the past.

          I would expect that each decision needs to be based on the merits of the current event - not on what has transpired in the past.

          Whilst attitudes like Wall's exist, we have a problem.
          Basically it means the umpires can, will, and do play favourites (or more accurately, make life tough for players who aren't sweet faced suck ups).

          It's perfectly reasonable to expect each decision to be made on it's merits, but for Hally and the Swans in general, it's a pipedream.

          The worst part of it is that the AFL just bat it all away - everything is perfect in their world - and they will never do anything about it. Makes a joke of so called umpire directives and the laws of the game.

          Maybe Hally should turn up with a Matty Lloyd mask on against the pies - anything's worth a try!

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          • Lohengrin
            On the Rookie List
            • Jul 2008
            • 641

            Originally posted by dimelb
            I've watched the replays on TV and on the YouTube, and I didn't see Hall make head-high contact with Mitchell; he gave a shove with his forearm across the top of Mitchell's chest.
            Hall gave Mitchell a little tap with his fist to the jaw.

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            • Agent 86
              Senior Player
              • Aug 2004
              • 1686

              Originally posted by Lohengrin
              Hall gave Mitchell a little tap with his fist to the jaw.
              Isn't that what he did to Staker?

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              • dimelb
                pr. dim-melb; m not f
                • Jun 2003
                • 6889

                Originally posted by Lohengrin
                Hall gave Mitchell a little tap with his fist to the jaw.
                I wish ...
                He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                • T-bag
                  Warming the Bench
                  • May 2008
                  • 248

                  Originally posted by Robbo
                  Paul Roos disagrees with you.

                  I haven't over reacted to anything mate. I just think the way Hall carried on was dumb given the circumstances of the particular moment. I can't see how anyone can disagree with that.
                  No we disagree with Paul. He's just doing his usual tow the party line bull @@@@

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                  • 573v30
                    On the bandwagon...
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 5017

                    Finally I get to see some footage of the incident and yes, those 50m penalties were soft.
                    I only support one team: The SYDNEY SWANS!!!!! :adore

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                    • T-bag
                      Warming the Bench
                      • May 2008
                      • 248

                      Originally posted by SwansFan1972
                      Players give lip aggressively to umpires all the time - and if that had been anyone else but Hall, no free would have been paid. He is on a different footing to all other players - which is just wrong and flies in the face of everything the AFL tells us the umpires department supposedly stands for.
                      Exactly. What about Sam Mitchell having a go at the umpire incessantly and the umpire telling him to settle down. Why didn't Barry get told to settle down as well?

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                      • 573v30
                        On the bandwagon...
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 5017

                        Originally posted by T-bag
                        Exactly. What about Sam Mitchell having a go at the umpire incessantly and the umpire telling him to settle down. Why didn't Barry get told to settle down as well?
                        ...because giving 50m penalties going against him is much more satisfying.
                        I only support one team: The SYDNEY SWANS!!!!! :adore

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                        • T-bag
                          Warming the Bench
                          • May 2008
                          • 248

                          Originally posted by Robbo
                          So you don't think it was stupid of Hall to make head high contact with Mitchell?
                          That was THE ONLY stupid thing he did. And I do believe that Chalbilto referred to that fact by agreeing with Liz. Finding it hard to keep up?

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                          • goswannie14
                            Leadership Group
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 11166

                            Originally posted by Robbo
                            I think the Roughead one was there. Barry grabbed him by the neck/upper chest and threw him down.
                            Selective vision?? You forgot to add "after Roughead tried to run through him".
                            Does God believe in Atheists?

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                            • stellation
                              scott names the planets
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 9718

                              Originally posted by liz
                              True, but when the (footy) world starts taking Walls seriously, we have an even bigger problem.
                              I'd love to see Walls get a seat in parliament. Imagine the Hon Mr Robert Walls MP getting up to speak, "Mr Speaker, on careful review I believe it is clear that we are not getting sufficient effort from the police in order to quell attacks on Indian students... the commissioner is simply not getting involved... Mr Speaker, I propose we give the commissioner a run in the ruck!"
                              I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                              We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                              • Doctor J.
                                Senior Player
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 1310

                                Originally posted by stellation
                                I'd love to see Walls get a seat in parliament. Imagine the Hon Mr Robert Walls MP getting up to speak, "Mr Speaker, on careful review I believe it is clear that we are not getting sufficient effort from the police in order to quell attacks on Indian students... the commissioner is simply not getting involved... Mr Speaker, I propose we give the commissioner a run in the ruck!"

                                It took 6 pages, but finally some sense has entered this thread. Well done Stell

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