Sydney and Nick Davis locked in dispute over payments - Melbourne Herald Sun

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  • ugg
    Can you feel it?
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 15972

    #16
    He was so injured that he could still train with Brisbane for a spot on their list pre-season?
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    • Lucky Knickers
      Fandom of Fabulousness
      • Oct 2003
      • 4220

      #17
      Originally posted by Hartijon
      How would we all feel if we saw Nick Davis's name in the team against Collingwood say in the forward pocket??
      Worried

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      • stellation
        scott names the planets
        • Sep 2003
        • 9721

        #18
        Originally posted by ugg
        He was so injured that he could still train with Brisbane for a spot on their list pre-season?
        I'm not entirely sure if that matters (silly as it may seem). I believe the most significant part as far as the matter is concerned is that he didn't get a spot on their list.
        I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
        We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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        • satchmopugdog
          Bandicoots ears
          • Apr 2004
          • 3691

          #19
          Don't you lovethe emotive language in the headline....."Locked in dispute "
          Locked with its hard K sounds rather than in dispute.

          In the article Davis says they are on the same page. Hmmmmmmmm.
          "The Dog days are over, The Dog days are gone" Florence and the Machine

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          • ugg
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            • Jan 2003
            • 15972

            #20
            Originally posted by stellation
            I'm not entirely sure if that matters (silly as it may seem). I believe the most significant part as far as the matter is concerned is that he didn't get a spot on their list.
            But how much was that due to his injury, or other factors such as his age, his talent, his application, off-field issues...etc?
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            • Margie
              Regular in the Side
              • Sep 2003
              • 800

              #21
              Originally posted by Hartijon
              How would we all feel if we saw Nick Davis's name in the team against Collingwood say in the forward pocket??
              We'd probably feel alright, but I don't think the Pies fans would be too happy.

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              • stellation
                scott names the planets
                • Sep 2003
                • 9721

                #22
                Originally posted by ugg
                But how much was that due to his injury, or other factors such as his age, his talent, his application, off-field issues...etc?
                I know what you mean, I know absolutely nothing at all about the specifics of Nick's situation at all; but I understand that as part of the CBA any player who suffers an injury whilst playing in the final year of their contract (not sure the minimum impact the injury has to be, but from recollection it doesn't particuarly have to be "career ending") and then does not go on to play with another club is entitled to a payment totaling half of the base contract of their final year. This clause gets tapped into quite a bit.

                Whether Nick was actually on a $400k base I do not know; I doubt he was, but with hefty incentive targets it probably would be about that if he only signed for one year- so the point of contention may have been around half of the "potential" total.
                I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                • swansrule100
                  The quarterback
                  • May 2004
                  • 4538

                  #23
                  are we paying kennelly and fosdike at the moment?

                  plus now might be paying davis, plus leo barry to do stuff all, gee our list management is great
                  Theres not much left to say

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                  • stellation
                    scott names the planets
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 9721

                    #24
                    Nic and Tadhg are a bit different as they were also contracted for this season. With Tadhg's shoulder it was a reoccuring thing and if it'd been going on for >2 seasons (I can't recall if it was; did he first injure it in 2007?) then it wouldn't count towards this sort of payment (year standing on his contract aside), with Nic I believe he was paid a chunk of change by the club (and I wouldn't be suprised if it was around the amount Nick is asking for).

                    It's not overly poor list management (at least not in this case!), I understand most clubs make a payment of this sort each year.
                    I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                    We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                    • Claret
                      Support Staff
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 1104

                      #25
                      I haven't read the article so apologies if this is covered elsewhere BUT does this injury payment come under the salary cap?

                      Also, what is the minimum Total Player Payment? Is it 90% or 92.5% or something else altogether?
                      And the man who started it all, the Schneiderman . . . . .

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                      • Bas
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 4457

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Hartijon
                        How would we all feel if we saw Nick Davis's name in the team against Collingwood say in the forward pocket??
                        You'd have to send someone out and check his pockets for a few hidden KFC drumsticks!
                        In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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                        • pinkemu
                          Silver member, not Gold
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 419

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Hartijon
                          How would we all feel if we saw Nick Davis's name in the team against Collingwood say in the forward pocket??
                          It would be confusing if he had his head shaved like Shaw

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                          • JF_Bay22_SCG
                            expat Sydneysider
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 3978

                            #28
                            Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                            "Joint manager" indeed. Perhaps Davis has finally shown some good judgement?

                            Well he had joint girlfriends when he came back from LA a couple of years ago. So why not?

                            JF
                            "Never ever ever state that Sydney is gone.They are like cockroaches in the aftermath of a nuclear war"
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                            • stellation
                              scott names the planets
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 9721

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Claret
                              I haven't read the article so apologies if this is covered elsewhere BUT does this injury payment come under the salary cap?

                              Also, what is the minimum Total Player Payment? Is it 90% or 92.5% or something else altogether?
                              I could be wrong, but I think it would count towards the TPP but not to the cap.
                              I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                              We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                              • sprite
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 813

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Hartijon
                                How would we all feel if we saw Nick Davis's name in the team against Collingwood say in the forward pocket??
                                Extremely worried - knowing that his usual efforts would effectively give Collingwood 19 on the field.

                                Would rather see Vespa or DOK
                                sprite

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