the month ahead...part 2/we will bounce back and win 4 in a row (merged thread)

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  • Plugger46
    Senior Player
    • Apr 2003
    • 3674

    #16
    Originally posted by Claret
    Does anybody seriously think we do?

    St Kilda, Geelong, Collingwood, the Bulldogs, and even Brisbane and Adelaide are all playing at a level above us.

    Make that 4 levels.

    I'm not having a crack at the players, most of them are giving their all for the four points. But reality (I know that word is a bit of a stretch on here) dictates that we're not even in the same class.
    We're not a threat to anyone but I reckon we're on about the same level as Carlton, Essendon and Hawthorn (in their current state). And better than Port Adelaide. They're the 5 teams fighting it out for 7th and 8th spot.
    Bloods

    "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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    • Cant turn right
      Warming the Bench
      • Dec 2007
      • 231

      #17
      I think we could well win the next 3 of the next 4 games. So far this year we haven't challenged the bookies much; with the exception of the Hawks game in round 2, I think the bookies have been spot on with us. I assume we would be favourites against the Kangas, Dees and the Dons with Carlton at Docklands being short priced favourites. The thing about this year is that we haven't overachieved (in terms of the bookies expectations) like we did a few years back.

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      • 10Totti10
        On the Rookie List
        • Apr 2009
        • 443

        #18
        TBH we r on the same level of collingwood, Adelaide, which is clearly seen through our last games. Lost them through stupid mistakes and prob shud have won. We will beat N.M, Essendon, Carlton, and Melbourne

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        • Plugger46
          Senior Player
          • Apr 2003
          • 3674

          #19
          Originally posted by RogueSwan
          Oh no, how many times have we won this year going in as favourites?
          I actually don't know the answer, but I don't think it is a lot.
          Probably three - Richmond, West Coast and Port Adelaide. Think the only time we've lost as favourites was to Freo at Subi.
          Bloods

          "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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          • Cant turn right
            Warming the Bench
            • Dec 2007
            • 231

            #20
            Originally posted by Plugger46
            Think the only time we've lost as favourites was to Freo at Subi.
            I forgot about the Freo game. The win as underdogs against the Hawks and the Freo loss as favourites cancel each other out then.

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            • Claret
              Support Staff
              • Sep 2005
              • 1104

              #21
              Originally posted by 10Totti10
              TBH we r on the same level of collingwood, Adelaide, which is clearly seen through our last games.
              Red and White coloured glasses??
              And the man who started it all, the Schneiderman . . . . .

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              • doctor swan
                On the Rookie List
                • May 2007
                • 266

                #22
                our season went west after teds clanger against the bulldogs followed shortly after by jarrod moore non handball to jolly, the we had the hawthorn game nothing need be said there, the there was the collingwood game a ted clanger and a lrt kick to a pack when goodesy was free on the wing the resulting spilt ball was a coolingwood goal, all game turners ...then the crow game we played a half of footy , our season is shot yet had it not been for turnovers at crucial times it all could have been another story, and again hiding the inevitable that we need a good rebuild.
                on the positive there l l be a lot of cash free under the sal cap so watch for a big recruit or 2. any speculation as to who.........

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                • bandwagon
                  Regular in the Side
                  • May 2003
                  • 565

                  #23
                  Originally posted by 10Totti10
                  TBH we r on the same level of collingwood, Adelaide, which is clearly seen through our last games. Lost them through stupid mistakes and prob shud have won. We will beat N.M, Essendon, Carlton, and Melbourne
                  I'm all for positivity, but I'm sorry Totti, this is nonsense. Adelaide and Collingwood have been consistently beating us for years. We actually put in a decent show this year, but that doesn't put us at their level. I'll be very pleasantly surprised if we win 3 of the next 4. And I'd swop that for one victory as long as that was a thumping of the Bombers.

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                  • Plugger46
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 3674

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Claret
                    Red and White coloured glasses??
                    A fraction below them but we're going better than you're making out.
                    Bloods

                    "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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                    • Claret
                      Support Staff
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 1104

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Plugger46
                      A fraction below them but we're going better than you're making out.
                      Perhaps we are going better than I'm making out . . . . .

                      But some people need to watch more football, particularly non-Swans games, to see just how far off the pace we are. Pace being the key word.

                      It also must be said that we play a brand of footy that makes it hard for other teams to blow us away, often sugar-coating the situation.

                      It's not all doom and gloom though. Just 2 years ago the Bombers were being criticised for a lack of pace - and look at them now.
                      And the man who started it all, the Schneiderman . . . . .

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                      • Plugger46
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 3674

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Claret
                        Perhaps we are going better than I'm making out . . . . .

                        But some people need to watch more football, particularly non-Swans games, to see just how far off the pace we are. Pace being the key word.

                        It also must be said that we play a brand of footy that makes it hard for other teams to blow us away, often sugar-coating the situation.

                        It's not all doom and gloom though. Just 2 years ago the Bombers were being criticised for a lack of pace - and look at them now.
                        I try to watch 4 or 5 games a weekend and generally catch a replay or highlights of the others so I watch plenty of footy.

                        Fair point on our brand of footy, you're spot on. Although, we've been in front at different stages over the last three weeks - twice in the last quarter, so I don't think the results have flattered us.

                        The sides around us (Essendon, Carlton, Hawthorn & Port Adelaide) have been just as inconsistent and oridinary as us at times.
                        Bloods

                        "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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                        • goswannie14
                          Leadership Group
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 11166

                          #27
                          I reckon we'll win three of those, losing to the bummers.
                          Does God believe in Atheists?

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                          • Swanner
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 186

                            #28
                            We will bounce back and win four in a row

                            Looking at the draw I think the swans are a big chance to win the next four. North and Essendon at home. Carlton out of form and Melbourne away. This would put us at 9 wins and eight losses. Still very much in the hunt for the eight.

                            So if we simply beat Richmond away and Brisbane at the SCG we will probably make the eight and if we jag one of Geelong(home), St Kilda (home) or Collingwood (away) then we could even get a home final.

                            The last three are almost impossible but with potentailly Micky "o", Leo Barry and Barry Hall all hanging up the boots there would be a powerful incentive to send them out in style.

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                            • 10Totti10
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 443

                              #29
                              Agreed. I think the last few weeks have shown alot of promise from the Swans, and we haven't played all to badly. B.Hall out will be interesting, but with McVeigh, C.Bolton, Malceski, all set to return and maybe a debut from one of our younger guys I think we stand a good chance. The Kangas r not in good form so im not to worried about that game, and although Essendon beat Carlton quite convincingly, Carlton have been in terrible form and it shouldn't have come as a shock. Carlton (look above) while Melbourne just can't win. Richmond should be alright as well, but Brisbane will pose a test. Its at the SCG however and that is much smaller and more suited to us. If we strike up some good form, we should be able to beat all those teams. Then who knows, if we get into some good form I reckon we stand a good chance against Collingwood, and maybe even StKilda seeing as we always have tight encounters with them. We won't beat Geelong however. I know im getting ahead of myself but we can beat most of those teams and do stand a chance at making the finals. Gotta keep the faith

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                              • Mr Magoo
                                Senior Player
                                • May 2008
                                • 1255

                                #30
                                I fear we have lost that belief that we can beat teams even though our performances against better teams suggests we can. At best we will probably win two of the four.

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