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Crawf gives tanking the big thumbs up. This will solve all our problems and is unavoidable.
Discuss.
Discuss.
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It worked for Carlton !!!
(One of the blokes I work with is a bluebag. He says that they "had" to tank because of the sanctions the AFL put on them for breaching the salary cap.)
Smells like a cheat .... looks like a cheat ....Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
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Pretty good article that. Evey side needs to drop down the ladder for a period to rebuild.Comment
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I reckon Roos has been softening the sydney public up for a rebuild all season. Now everyone seems to be resigned to the fact and many now prefer it as the future way forward.
While I agree we need to start rebuilding , i dont believe that one premiership from sustained bottoming out is the proven formula to premiership success. Richmond and Melbourne will be the real tests of this formula.Comment
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The problem for teams is that you may hit your peak and have a 3-4 year window of winning premierships, perhaps more perhaps less. But if you are unlucky, you can have injuries or just hit your peak whilst a team like Geelong now are at a higher peak. Or like Richmond, keep rebuilding and not hit any peak.
Look at St Kilda, with all their high picks and everyone thought they were the goods in 2004/2005 - but injuries and us robbed them (yay). But now they are up again so perhaps their window was longer than most.
With an extra two teams, if premierships were shared equally you would only win once every 18 years. A bit of bad luck, miss your window and it can easily be 40 years between drinks.
Still its a better system than the English Premier League where only 4 teams share the glory year after year.
Anyway I think he is right, what else can we do? We can't trade for high picks and we don't have the team to just get 1 or 2 gun players by trading our picks to take us to a premiership team.
But maybe in 5 years we will be up there with Goodes at full forward and a team of young stars.Comment
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There's not much point trying for the finals this year even if by some miracle we make it we can only really at best win 1 game, defying the slide 1 more year means next year we will be down bottom with no draft picks.
I think with the recent team selections brimming with young players and the likes of buchannan mal and ablett not getting a game we have set ourselves for 10th or 11th this year. Roosey said we are going to pick between 5 and 8 young players plus rookies this year so load up with young players get rid of some of the old blokes and have another crack at the finals next year. If we are going to have a bad season it may as well be this one because its the last time the draft will be relatively uncompromised for a few years.
I would hate for us to make the finals this year only to finish 14th next year and get nothing for it.Comment
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Some of us wanted this neccessary evil 2 years ago.
Roos now talks of maximum draft picks this year.( A panic reaction to the up coming compromised drafts) So, due to the fact we took the minimum picks in 07 and 08, we'll be putting all our eggs in one basket ....09....fingers crossed it's a stellar draft. Poor planning.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MTComment
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He doesn't advocate tanking. He says we should start playing the kids, and there is a fair chance we will drop down the ladder if we do that.Comment
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Tanking = deliberately not winning games
Planning = developing a new and younger cohort of players who can develop together, bond and learn each others game. Our current list is not good. Therefore, rebuild the list. Doesn't mean bottoming out, although we will no doubt fall down the ladder. It just means thinking changes from short term (win next game) to medium to long term (develop team to win every game in two years).He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.Comment
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Players age and become less effective. You can't replace their experience and skill as quickly as it declines. You don't get good draft picks when you continue to make finals. Younger players take time to develop.
I can't think of any sides that have not have a drop after a relatively successful period in the AFL.
What is the reality?Comment
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Of course a team WILL drop. You drop because you age, you don't get better because you drop. The AFL works in cycles, everybody knows that, but that doesn't mean you have to deliberately initiate a drop in order to do well later. It also doesn't mean you can't make the most of what you've got and try to lessen the drop as much as possible.
If you've got a good recruiting team, you should be able to rebuild without dropping too far. Look at Adelaide at the moment. They're doing very well on the back of some quality recruiting, without doing anything close to tanking. Yes, they obviously slid down the ladder after success, as the Swans are doing now. That doesn't mean we have to slide to the spoon.Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!Comment
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Adelaide - rebuilding without dropping out of finals contention.
Geelong - had a year when they underperformed (but were still competitive in most games) before emerging as a powerhouse, the core of whose squad was recruited and reasonably seasoned before that bad year.
And then there is one club who won the minor premiership one year in the mid-90s, were strong contenders two years later (and might have done better than a SF had their best onballer - a Brownlow medallist - not succumbed to a season ending knee injury 2/3rds of the way through the seaosn). A club who, over a period spanning 13 completed seasons finished out of the top 8 only twice, whose highest earned draft pick during that period was number 7 (upgraded to 5 due to penalties handed to another club) and who nearly a decade after that first GF appearance won a premiership and came within a bees' youknowwhat of defending their title a year later.
Wonder who they could be.
And then, of course, you have clubs like Richmond who have spent most of the last couple of decades "rebuilding" and yet look set for yet another bottom 4 finish in 2009. Or Freo, who have spent practically their entire existence "rebuilding".Comment
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