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  • Plugger46
    Senior Player
    • Apr 2003
    • 3674

    #16
    Originally posted by Lohengrin
    I can't see why the Hawks would want him or why we'd want to keep him.

    The only teams that could use him are really the Bulldogs and perhaps Essendon?
    Franklin, Roughead and Hall - with Rioli and Williams as well. Almost impossible to match up on.

    Having said that, I doubt they're seriously interested.
    Bloods

    "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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    • Lohengrin
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      • Jul 2008
      • 641

      #17
      Have three key forwards ever worked before?

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      • Plugger46
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2003
        • 3674

        #18
        Originally posted by Lohengrin
        Have three key forwards ever worked before?
        Ever been tried before?

        All different types, all quality footballers so I don't see why it couldn't.

        They could actually do it so Roughead can go down back, as their backline is really struggling.

        Imagine the free kicks against with Baz and Buddy in the one forward line
        Bloods

        "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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        • caj23
          Senior Player
          • Aug 2003
          • 2462

          #19
          Originally posted by Lohengrin
          Have three key forwards ever worked before?
          There are plenty of examples

          Hawks mid 80's premierhsip teams always used to have 3 - Dunstall, Brerereton and Dear/Abbott

          More recently Pies had Tarrant, Cloke and Rocca in their 2 GF losses

          Brisbane had Lynch, Brown and Bradshaw in their 3 premierships

          I'm sure there's more examples but can't pull them out off the top of my head

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          • Lohengrin
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            • Jul 2008
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            #20
            I guess you could play Roughhead as the swing player, which is what Bradshaw did at the Lions. Brisbane are probably the only team to successfully integrate three big forwards I think. Alternatively it could free up Buddy to rove up to the wing.

            Travis Cloke wasn't in the Collingwood side in 02-03 and Jason Cloke was a loose backman.

            Greg Dear was a ruckman. Paul Dear was a half forward/wing and wasn't mid 1980s. Abbott wasn't particularly successful as a key forward, except for his big day out in the 1988 GF.
            Last edited by Lohengrin; 26 August 2009, 02:23 PM.

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            • BSA5
              Senior Player
              • Feb 2008
              • 2522

              #21
              I reckon Hall, Roughy and Franklin could work. Roughy can play back when needed, Franklin can play spurts in the midfield. Perhaps this would free up a bloke like Mark Williams to move into the midfield as well.

              Not as strange as it seems at first thought, though I'd still be surprised if they seriously went after him.
              Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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              • liz
                Veteran
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                • Jan 2003
                • 16764

                #22
                I would have thought the Hawks have other priorities. Their forward line hasn't really struggled to kick goals when they've got it up there. They've just not been able to get the ball forward as often or as quickly as last year, and their defence has leaked at times.

                Collingwood is one example of a team which is having some success with multiple key forwards. Cloke and Anthony are their mainstays, and they might still try to fit Rocca in there too. Plus Medhurst, while smallish, plays more of a lead and marking role than a small, tricksy crumbing forward role.

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                • The Big Cat
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                  • Apr 2006
                  • 2355

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Lohengrin
                  perhaps Essendon?
                  The team that needs a bloke like Hall is Geelong. However Thompson says they're not into recycling players - perhaps he's forgotten where Ottens and Harley came from!
                  Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                  • Lohengrin
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                    • Jul 2008
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                    #24
                    I thought of Geelong, but I don't think you want Hall and Mooney in the same forward line, particularly if you are trying to develop Hawkins.

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                    • caj23
                      Senior Player
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 2462

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Lohengrin
                      I guess you could play Roughhead as the swing player, which is what Bradshaw did at the Lions. Brisbane are probably the only team to successfully integrate three big forwards I think. Alternatively it could free up Buddy to rove up to the wing.

                      Travis Cloke wasn't in the Collingwood side in 02-03 and Jason Cloke was a loose backman.

                      My bad - Rocca, Molloy and Tarrant, although Rocca Cloke and Tarrant played together later on and worked well

                      Greg Dear was a ruckman. Paul Dear was a half forward/wing and wasn't mid 1980s. Abbott wasn't particularly successful as a key forward, except for his big day out in the 1988 GF.
                      Paul Dear won the 1991 Norm Smith with Dunstall and Brereton - was 188cms thought he was taller.

                      Other teams - Essendon 2000 - Lloyd Lucas Hird
                      North Melbourne 1999 GF Team had Longmire, Carey, Scholl and Cam Mooney all in the forward line!!

                      It certainly can be done and works as long as you've got the right players

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                      • Hartijon
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                        • May 2008
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Lohengrin
                        I thought of Geelong, but I don't think you want Hall and Mooney in the same forward line, particularly if you are trying to develop Hawkins.
                        They could rotate the suspensions so one was always available.

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                        • Primmy
                          Proud Tragic Swan
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 5970

                          #27
                          Its a tease isn't it. He's just playing with our emotions. And he would look crap in yellow and brown (everyone does).
                          If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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                          • dimelb
                            pr. dim-melb; m not f
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 6889

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Hartijon
                            They could rotate the suspensions so one was always available.
                            LOL
                            He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                            • Lohengrin
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                              • Jul 2008
                              • 641

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Hartijon
                              They could rotate the suspensions so one was always available.
                              Your coaching talents are wasted!

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                              • AnnieH
                                RWOs Black Sheep
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 11332

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Hartijon
                                They could rotate the suspensions so one was always available.
                                Hilarious!!

                                They can have him. His eyes aren't as good as they used to be.
                                Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
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