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  • Swannette
    Regular in the Side
    • Jan 2003
    • 832

    Jolly not in AA list

    What the? Darren Jolly not even named on the extended AA selection list. Bolts and Goodesy are, but no Jolly. I find that extremely odd.

    Patterns emerge, but do they mean anything? No.
  • Captain
    Captain of the Side
    • Feb 2004
    • 3602

    #2
    Jolly unlucky, but his 2nd half of the year really fell away.

    Not sure how they have Dane Swans in the forward line?

    Besides the past month or so, reckon Goodes has played more midfield as well.

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    • stellation
      scott names the planets
      • Sep 2003
      • 9723

      #3
      No O'Keefe?
      I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
      We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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      • Lucky Knickers
        Fandom of Fabulousness
        • Oct 2003
        • 4220

        #4
        I love B2 but was surprised at that nom but I guess he is Mr Reliable.
        Last edited by Lucky Knickers; 1 September 2009, 06:45 PM. Reason: Wrong Banana (sorry 2005)

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        • UglyDuckling
          On the Rookie List
          • Aug 2008
          • 452

          #5
          No Jolly = Disgrace

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          • AnnieH
            RWOs Black Sheep
            • Aug 2006
            • 11332

            #6
            I'm surprised.

            Good on Bolts and Goodesy though.

            If the selectors think Goodesy may be good enough ... Mr Charlie??
            Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
            Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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            • AnnieH
              RWOs Black Sheep
              • Aug 2006
              • 11332

              #7
              Originally posted by Lucky Knickers
              I love B2 but was surprised at that nom but I guess he is Mr Reliable.
              Quite often the last line.
              Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
              Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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              • Plugger46
                Senior Player
                • Apr 2003
                • 3674

                #8
                No O'Keefe is the bigger joke. Probably wouldn't have had Bolton in there this year.
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                • Claret
                  Support Staff
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 1104

                  #9
                  It's probably a bit hard to justify having four ruckmen in a 40-man squad, and Jols was no better than 4th best throughout the year. I agree it would have been a different story after 11 rounds.

                  Bolton pretty lucky to be honest. It feels a bit strange having a Swan picked on reputation! Chris Tarrant unlucky here.

                  O'Keefe very stiff. Very very.

                  Try picking a forward line out of those nominated - very diificult. Fev and Roo pick themselves. As do Le Cras (who I've gone for ahead of the Porpoise, just) and Stevie J and Chappy. Swan will be named in the midfield. Leaving Jono Brown on the field and Goodesy on the bench (for versatility).

                  Neon Leon, Buddy, and Milne not as consistent as those mentioned above.
                  Last edited by Claret; 2 September 2009, 12:16 AM.
                  And the man who started it all, the Schneiderman . . . . .

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                  • laughingnome
                    Amateur Statsman
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 1624

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Claret
                    It's probably a bit hard to justify having four ruckmen in a 40-man squad, and Jols was no better than 4th best throughout the year. I agree it would have been a different story after 11 rounds.
                    Maybe so, but the stats say he was at least as good as the rest this year amoung the rucks:
                    Hit outs: 682 (next best: Sandilands, 659)
                    FF/FA: 32/28 (best difference: Brogan 45/33)
                    Tackles: 61 (third behind Ryder (99) and Clark (86))
                    Goals: 16 (equal first with Lade)
                    Inside 50: 41 (Clark had 51)
                    Disposals: 261 (Sandilands, McIntosh, Clark all approx 350)

                    The disposals seems to be what tipped it away from him, but I hardly think that's fair. Jolly was used more as a resting forward given the incredible load he's had to shoulder this year in the ruck. It's no secret his round 22 game was poor, I'd suggest the poor man was buggered from his hardest year on the park.

                    But it's done and dusted now, hopefully his engine has gotten even bigger for the journey and he floors the whole ruddy lot of them next year.
                    10100111001 ;-)

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                    • Plugger46
                      Senior Player
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 3674

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Claret
                      It's probably a bit hard to justify having four ruckmen in a 40-man squad, and Jols was no better than 4th best throughout the year. I agree it would have been a different story after 11 rounds.

                      Bolton pretty lucky to be honest. It feels a bit strange having a Swan picked on reputation! Chris Tarrant unlucky here.

                      O'Keefe very stiff. Very very.

                      Try picking a forward line out of those nominated - very diificult. Fev and Roo pick themselves. As do Le Cras (who I've gone for ahead of the Porpoise, just) and Stevie J and Chappy. Swan will be named in the midfield. Leaving Jono Brown on the field and Goodesy on the bench (for versatility).

                      Neon Leon, Buddy, and Milne not as consistent as those mentioned above.
                      Clark didn't really warm up til the second half of the year and McIntosh tapered off over the last 6 weeks.

                      Bolton had a good year but certainly picked on reputation IMO. Reckon Bartel is the same.

                      Why on earth is Swan picked as a forward? Franklin's inclusion is equally mind-boggling.

                      Don't agree on Steve Johnson, Claret. Good chance but shouldn't be a walk-up start. Excellent player but had some quiet games and only played 16 games.

                      O'Keefe and Jobe Watson are the two glaring omissions.

                      Not sure why this award is rated so highly - Glen Jackovich, the most biased man in football is on the selection panel for starters. Glorified media award.
                      Bloods

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                      • Go Swannies
                        Veterans List
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 5697

                        #12
                        I can't believe all the Sydney-based selectors didn't pick Jolly after seeing his incredible efforts all year!

                        AFL all-Australian makes as much sense as American baseball's World Series.

                        And any panel, board or selection committee that has Robert Walls on it has no credibility at all. Was I the only one who found On the Couch essential viewing this year now the other half of the lounge was filled by the intelligence, level-headedness and good humour of James Hird?

                        Jolls can feel ripped off - as can Rhys Shaw who made more forward progress for his team than anyone else in the competition.

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                        • Primmy
                          Proud Tragic Swan
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 5970

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Go Swannies
                          I can't believe all the Sydney-based selectors didn't pick Jolly after seeing his incredible efforts all year!

                          AFL all-Australian makes as much sense as American baseball's World Series.

                          And any panel, board or selection committee that has Robert Walls on it has no credibility at all. Was I the only one who found On the Couch essential viewing this year now the other half of the lounge was filled by the intelligence, level-headedness and good humour of James Hird?

                          Jolls can feel ripped off - as can Rhys Shaw who made more forward progress for his team than anyone else in the competition.


                          He is probably just not pretty enough.
                          If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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                          • Donners
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 1061

                            #14
                            Don't think there's much argument with the rucks chosen ahead of Jolly. He had quite a few flat games in the second half of the season.

                            O'Keefe was quite unlucky, though.

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                            • Plugger46
                              Senior Player
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 3674

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Donners
                              Don't think there's much argument with the rucks chosen ahead of Jolly. He had quite a few flat games in the second half of the season.

                              O'Keefe was quite unlucky, though.
                              What about Clark doing very little in the first half of the season? McIntosh was just as quiet as Jolly late in the year.

                              I agree though, O'Keefe is the most unlucky.
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                              "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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