Delistings

[Captain]

I think the large number of retirements has saved a few players from being delisted. However I reckon there will be 3-4 players that have to go. For mine...

Delisted:

Playfair
DOK
Brabazon

Lucky (all these will have to have a big 2010 and play regularly)

Buchanan
Bevan
Laidlaw
Schmidt

So with 6 retirements, 3 delistings would mean:
2 rookie promotions (Thonrton, Pyke)
5 picks in national draft
1 pick in PSD
1 player from a draft pick trade/swap

[chuckie]

What do we do with Jake Orreal his 2 years as a rookie are up, do we delist him and then try and re draft him via the rookie draft, do we promote him to the senior list or just let him go.

[Plugger46]

Brabazon and Playfair should be the only two IMO.

Will be absolutely amazed if they delist D.O'Keefe after his first serious season.

[bigswan]

I think that 5 selections in this draft is too much. You have to be sure that the players you are drafting low in the draft have more potential than those on the list. I think that DOK and Braba will be reprieved but Playfair is a risk due to his injury. I also doubt whether Laidlaw can withstand the rigours of AFL footy.

[caj23]

Don't understand the rush to promote Pyke

He clearly needs more time to develop and to be honest we looked better with LRT relieving against Brisbane.

Not there's much merit in promoting Orreal either as he is in the same boat

Hopefully Currie can be injury free at the beginning of 2010 and can come in as Jolly's understudy

As for delistings, mine would be

Brabazon and Playfair if he can't come up

[hammo]

I think Dan O'Keefe will be given another year to prove himself. Hopefully for him an injury free pre-season and a chance to push for senior selection in round 1.

Playfair and Brabazon will be the only two delistings for mine.

[Bleed Red Blood]

Brabazon and Playfair should be the only two IMO.

Will be absolutely amazed if they delist D.O'Keefe after his first serious season.

So often I just have to quote your post and say "Seconded."
Rarely I do 'cause I'm a wanker and stubborn and want to say exactly what I mean.
But in this case it is.
And I still didn't just say "agree". But there you go.

[Captain]

Will be absolutely amazed if they delist D.O'Keefe after his first serious season.

3 years on the list, injury prone, has never amazed in the ressies and other young guys are picked ahead of him. I will be absolutely amazed if we DON'T delist him.

[Bleed Red Blood]

3 years on the list, injury prone, has never amazed in the ressies and other young guys are picked ahead of him. I will be absolutely amazed if we DON'T delist him.

I don't think you can claim "injury prone". He had that recurring groin (?) injury in his first two seasons, and with that behind him will hopefully build form and with a good pre-season show why he was taken first round.

[Captain]

I don't think you can claim "injury prone". He had that recurring groin (?) injury in his first two seasons, and with that behind him will hopefully build form and with a good pre-season show why he was taken first round.

Would love for you to be right, we need a classy midfielder. Just don't reckon you will be right...

[Industrial Fan]

Brabazon, Laidlaw.

That is all.

[BSA5]

DOK should be kept. First season not hampered by injury, showed some serious class in the ressies at times (going off reports), but inconsistent. Inconsistency is what you'd expect from a guy that had played almost no footy in two years.

Braba should go, I reckon. His main strength is his ability to find the ball, but we already have those types developing. Bird is averaging one of the highest possessions:TOG% ratios in the team, Jack is winning 15 touches a game playing as a hard tagger, and I'd expect him to be freed up soon, Hanners screams ball-magnet, MOD finds plenty of it, and basically seems like a quicker and more agile version of Braba, and McVeigh knows how to rack them up (he only averages 21 touches a game, but this is more through inconsistency; out of 18 games, 6 have been 26 possessions or over, 6 have been 16 possessions or under, with the other 6 between the two, which is statistically odd, as you'd expect a bell-curve, with much more in the middle region). Braba has had 4 basically injury-free seasons at the club, and has 4 poor-to-moderate games to show for it.

Orreal has apparently been elevated.

Thornton should be elevated.

Laidlaw is a tough one, you'd think after slotting 8 goals for the ressies, if the coaching staff were still keen to keep him, they'd give him a run in the last game. We should know better than to make concrete assumptions based on Roos' selections, as they are often highly enigmatic, but it isn't a great sign him. Could be in trouble.

Buchy should be trade bait. He has stagnated here, I reckon a new club would help him capture past form. Perhaps the Saints would like to reunite him with his old partner in crime, the Schneiderman (has anybody noticed that Buchy's form dip coincided exactly with Schneider leaving?). Perhaps a trade for Maguire?

Playfair I kinda hope goes. I'm just can't get excited about him as a player. We don't really lack that many talls; Grundy has come into his own down back, Richards is to come back to the side, LRT is in top form, CBolts is still up and about, Pyke might find a home in a loose role down back at times next year, Currie has shown promise both up forward and in the ruck, Jolly can pinch-hit up forward, White is young, promising and appears durable, Johnston is an unknown quantity, Goodes is starting to make CHF his own, and I reckon Barlow, who has been playing on the wing and down back lately, could play as a tall forward as well or better than Henry. Add to that guys like Vespa, who has shown ability as a small lead-up FF (Mark Williams style) and Ryan O'Keefe, who if we're absolutely desperate can pinch-hit as a genuine forward, as can Paul Bevan and Luke Ablett, then I think structurally speaking we don't need Hank as cover all that much.

[Captain]

Pyke might find a home in a loose role down back at times next year

I know it wasn't your main point, but I almost choked when I read this! What would Pyke be doing down back? Can't quite see him intercepting the incoming ball like Hodge and Maxwell...

I would have Pyke stone cold last in players who should play the loose man down back.

[Donners]

Can't see more than two being cut given how many players we have lost.

Has Thornton really done enough to get a promotion? I can't remember seeing anything of note in the few games he did play.

Laidlaw and Brabazon would have to be on extremely shaky ground, with four games between them in as many years.

Playfair is the most obvious one to go.

[gossipcom]

Going by Roos comments (am on phone so don't have the actual quote) it looks like Playfair if his hammy comes good will survive.