Bob Skilton Medal Night - Spoilers

[Wardy]

Good night. But seriously, they need to have a look at how the votes are awarded. Just so random. Up to 50 votes for as many players as they want?? Come on. In some games there was 14 or more players receiving votes. In others, 6 or less. Way to incionsistent and way to open for "interpretation" by those voting.

Interpretation - See Coaches pets....

have to agree there - we couldnt work out what or how the voting system worked - in some games you would have thought there are only about 8 players on the field in total, whereas in others, pretty much everyone was awarded points. Oh well I guess it works for them.

[Primmy]

As explained on the night, and what they have done for some time now, each coach (five now) give their opinion of every player's performance in a game on a scale of one to ten - that means a player could get anything totalling up to fifty points per game. They also have the right of handing a score of zero if that's their opinion of a player for that game.

Its not a 3 2 1 system.

They judge each player on how they performed their tasks and each coach has an opinion. Only once has a player got a full score for a game, and that was Leo a couple of years ago when there were 4 coaches and it was a game at ANZ against I think West Coast - he blitzed them.

This year the highest number of points was 45 out of 50, to Peb, in one of the last games of the year.

Some of the guys didn't rate at all. Fair enough. But even if they get say 15 points a game, if it is consistent through the year, then the chances are they are more likely to finish in the top section than say a player who gets 30 one week and 5 the next. Its an eminently fair system. And they are hard markers.

[Wardy]

As explained on the night, and what they have done for some time now, each coach (five now) give their opinion of every player's performance in a game on a scale of one to ten - that means a player could get anything totalling up to fifty points per game. They also have the right of handing a score of zero if that's their opinion of a player for that game.

Its not a 3 2 1 system.

They judge each player on how they performed their tasks and each coach has an opinion. Only once has a player got a full score for a game, and that was Leo a couple of years ago when there were 4 coaches and it was a game at ANZ against I think West Coast - he blitzed them.

This year the highest number of points was 45 out of 50, to Peb, in one of the last games of the year.

Some of the guys didn't rate at all. Fair enough. But even if they get say 15 points a game, if it is consistent through the year, then the chances are they are more likely to finish in the top section than say a player who gets 30 one week and 5 the next. Its an eminently fair system. And they are hard markers.

Well thanks for explaining that - obviously I wasnt listening and the Gladdies are still alive!

[liz]

Only once has a player got a full score for a game, and that was Leo a couple of years ago when there were 4 coaches and it was a game at ANZ against I think West Coast - he blitzed them.

It was his game against the Saints at the SCG in 2004 - when he kept Gehrig to about 3 possessions.

I thought Plugger got the maximum once too, though. For his 1998 game against Port when he kicked 12 goals. It was the game PK went down with his ACL injury and someone needed to step up for us to win that game. It was an absolutely awesome display by the big man.

[AnnieH]

Top night.
Still got a sore head.

[Big Al]

Well said both Primmy & Al (who scrubbed up very well too I might add!) .

what a fantastic night - there was alot of love in the room.

It all went off without a hitch and I really enjoyed Richard Colless's dig when Cathy Marney (the cheersquad leader) received a very well deserved life membership. Richy said that we didnt need "some white haired dickhead like Collingwood have" to show our strength and Cathy said that she didnt own a gold sparkly jacket either, needless to say the crowd went wild!

But to all the winners - it was just so special.

Reece Shaw won those hearts that were still a bit undecided - he worked the room well.

We ran a sweep at our table and none of us had chosen Ryan (sorry Rok) so seeing as no one won we are donating our money to the Glenn McGrath foundation.

It was really terrific to catch up with Lovely RWOers, Annie H, Big Al & Go Swannies - sorry Primmy I didnt know where you were - or would know where to start looking - but in your honour I took the arrangement of Gladdy's from my table home. I'm even proud that I didnt lose my shoes this year - unlike 2005.

Got to have a photo with Micky O & Sir Bobby Skilton (who has a fabulous tan) but my absolute fave - and I can safely say that this would have been the very last photo taken at a Swans function - of Barry Hall. Yes Barry & Me out the front of the convention centre heading to the cab rank. had a chat to him and his girlfriend (she's really lovely) wished him luck and off they went into the future. So finally after 8 years I have a photo of me and my fave player who also happens to share the same birthday as me!! And I'm glad the club sent him off with a fitting tribute - so my faith in the club has been restored.

But like Al, am feeling somewhat hungover, but oh so glad that I got the opportunity to attend.

If any of you havent done it before - start saving now - a B & F dinner is a night you wont forget in a hurry.

And I must thank the boys at QBE for inviting me this year, very generous of them and a bloody good time had by all!

I think I might head to Club Swans on grandfinal day.

cheer cheer.

Thanks Wardy I fully agree... I did look good.

Don't let the "Cranky Old Bat" line fool you, Wardy is every bit a lovely lady.

Absolutely loved Magic's speech which had the right mix of emotion and humour. Not entirely sure how he got through it as well as he did because I was blubbering like an idiot.

I reiterate Wardy's comments for those who have never been to an B&F, do yourselves a favour and get along to one because it's not a night you'll forget in a hurry.

[reigning premier]

As explained on the night, and what they have done for some time now, each coach (five now) give their opinion of every player's performance in a game on a scale of one to ten - that means a player could get anything totalling up to fifty points per game. They also have the right of handing a score of zero if that's their opinion of a player for that game.

Its not a 3 2 1 system.

They judge each player on how they performed their tasks and each coach has an opinion. Only once has a player got a full score for a game, and that was Leo a couple of years ago when there were 4 coaches and it was a game at ANZ against I think West Coast - he blitzed them.

This year the highest number of points was 45 out of 50, to Peb, in one of the last games of the year.

Some of the guys didn't rate at all. Fair enough. But even if they get say 15 points a game, if it is consistent through the year, then the chances are they are more likely to finish in the top section than say a player who gets 30 one week and 5 the next. Its an eminently fair system. And they are hard markers.

But they still get to give out as many or as few votes as they like.... i.e. they ccan give 10 lots of 9 votes in one week if they want..... Far to inconsistent. Be much more realistic if every coach gave 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 each week.

[BSA5]

It was his game against the Saints at the SCG in 2004 - when he kept Gehrig to about 3 possessions.

I thought Plugger got the maximum once too, though. For his 1998 game against Port when he kicked 12 goals. It was the game PK went down with his ACL injury and someone needed to step up for us to win that game. It was an absolutely awesome display by the big man.

Macca got full marks last year against the Dogs, didn't he?

[Primmy]

But they still get to give out as many or as few votes as they like.... i.e. they ccan give 10 lots of 9 votes in one week if they want..... Far to inconsistent. Be much more realistic if every coach gave 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 each week.

No its not. That pits the boys against each other, best on ground etc. Thats not what this is about. This method pits them against themselves, how they lived up to the job they were given on the day. They have five judges, each with their own opinion and score, and then its totalled. Cannot be fairer than that IMO. And after all, we are talking about the Coaches being the judge. Who else would you suggest?

If the boys play a crap game, it could be that only six of them get votes; and they may have been the ones that carried the others. Votes are not given if you did not put in as it became evident on the night. It was all there to see, except for the lowest of the low, and they spared the players the embarrassment of being "named and shamed" peformance wise. As I said before, they got zero votes if they were not deemed to have been puting in. Even Adam and Kirky got low votes some games. You could see the boys who had consistent years and the ones who got better as the year went on and the ones who were all over the place. Fascinating.

[Primmy]

It was his game against the Saints at the SCG in 2004 - when he kept Gehrig to about 3 possessions.

I thought Plugger got the maximum once too, though. For his 1998 game against Port when he kicked 12 goals. It was the game PK went down with his ACL injury and someone needed to step up for us to win that game. It was an absolutely awesome display by the big man.

I bow to the best memory in the business.

[Primmy]

Well thanks for explaining that - obviously I wasnt listening and the Gladdies are still alive!

No worries, and go Gladdies!!!

I have a lovely photo of a little lady with Ted, who had scooped up a couple of complete table decorations into what looked like a purloined serviette. I was wondering if I should change my avatar to this lovely bunch of flowers, but I am kind of fond of the one I already have. Decisions decisions

[Wardy]

No worries, and go Gladdies!!!

I have a lovely photo of a little lady with Ted, who had scooped up a couple of complete table decorations into what looked like a purloined serviette. I was wondering if I should change my avatar to this lovely bunch of flowers, but I am kind of fond of the one I already have. Decisions decisions

well that is why my host (in his drunken state) got the gladdies out of the vase for me - I said I had to do it in honour of a lady "I kind of know" - so I did it for Ms Primmy!!!

[AnnieH]

well that is why my host (in his drunken state) got the gladdies out of the vase for me - I said I had to do it in honour of a lady "I kind of know" - so I did it for Ms Primmy!!!

Took the flowers out of the vase!!! You're kidding right?? Should have done what I did ... take one of each arrangement home. Got one of the round ones that had the tulips in it and one of the square ones with the waratahs.

I know the florist who did the arrangements ... she said to make sure I took one home because the vases were "good" ones. I'm glad I did - the staff were divvying up the flowers!!!

[Wardy]

Took the flowers out of the vase!!! You're kidding right?? Should have done what I did ... take one of each arrangement home. Got one of the round ones that had the tulips in it and one of the square ones with the waratahs.

I know the florist who did the arrangements ... she said to make sure I took one home because the vases were "good" ones. I'm glad I did - the staff were divvying up the flowers!!!

Oh damn it!!! but then again - I was in no condition to carry a big glass vase, I 'd have dropped it for sure. - As it was it was hard enough manouvering the gladdies without pokeing people in the eyes I would have loved the tulips though - my fave flower and all.

So kids start saving for next year.

[Big Al]

well that is why my host (in his drunken state) got the gladdies out of the vase for me - I said I had to do it in honour of a lady "I kind of know" - so I did it for Ms Primmy!!!

From memory I nearly scored those very same gladdies... must have been the suit.