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  • goswannie14
    Leadership Group
    • Sep 2005
    • 11166

    Originally posted by Asterix
    Hopefully between the Swannies and the Westies we can see the further demise of rugby league, and the rise and rise of soccer and AFL.

    Imagine, two Sydney teams in the Grand Final and Australia winning the World Cup.

    Mmmmmmmm. Maybe my grandkids will see that one day!
    Why does it need to be at the expense of Rugby League? Sydney is a big enough city to have support for all 4 football codes I would have thought.
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    • Big Al
      Veterans List
      • Feb 2005
      • 7007

      Originally posted by Big Al
      The success of GWS does not have to be at the expense of Rugby League. There is room for both codes to co-exist and be successful.
      Originally posted by goswannie14
      Why does it need to be at the expense of Rugby League? Sydney is a big enough city to have support for all 4 football codes I would have thought.

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      • Wardy
        The old Boiler!
        • Sep 2003
        • 6676

        Originally posted by Big Al
        Great minds...
        exactly - there is room for both - however, someone really as a community service, should just gag the likes of Rothfield, Ritchie & Wilson from News Ltd. The tripe they are putting out about "this being war" and that "the AFL are trying to take over the world & if they do the world will end" is just absolute crap. All of that hysteria rubbish is getting on my tits more than anything else.
        Last edited by Wardy; 9 February 2010, 10:43 AM.
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        • BSA5
          Senior Player
          • Feb 2008
          • 2522

          Originally posted by goswannie14
          Why does it need to be at the expense of Rugby League? Sydney is a big enough city to have support for all 4 football codes I would have thought.
          It doesn't have to. Doesn't mean we don't want it to though!
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          • hammo
            Veterans List
            • Jul 2003
            • 5554

            Originally posted by goswannie14
            Why does it need to be at the expense of Rugby League? Sydney is a big enough city to have support for all 4 football codes I would have thought.
            You're right, it won't be at the expense of league. But the way the loyal league foot soldiers in the media (Masters, Rothfield, Kent) carry on you'd think it would be.

            Not so sure Sydney can cope with 4 football codes. There's only so much $$ that can go around. AFL is cashed up and prepared to lose a small fortune on GWS, but RL clubs, A-League and Union aren't in the same position.
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            • Doctor
              Bay 29
              • Sep 2003
              • 2757

              It doesn't have to be at the expense of League or any other code, although that may turn out to be a by-product. It really is just a case of dumbing it down for their readers for the likes of the aforementioned hacks to say it's one or the other, a battle of the codes, a fight for survival or whatever other hackneyed cliche they choose to bandy about on any given day.

              What's more likely is a further move of some sports into niches, such as the way rugby has retreated into its heartland to general apathy from elsewhere. Minor sports such as basketball may also continue to suffer. Lots of people will still play on a Tuesday night to keep fit, but less may choose to play it or follow it at the top level.
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              • Industrial Fan
                Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                • Aug 2006
                • 3318

                Originally posted by Wardy
                exactly - there is room for both - however, someone really as a community service, should just gag the likes of Rothfield, Ritchie & Wilson from News Ltd. The tripe they are putting out about "this being war" and that "the AFL are trying to take over the world & if they do the world will end" is just absolute crap. All of that hysteria rubbish is getting on my tits more than anything else.
                I only see that tripe giving AFL more publicity on the way through. I certainly dont think it hurts...
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                • Cheer Squad
                  Sydney Swans
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 1948

                  Originally posted by hammo
                  You're right, it won't be at the expense of league. But the way the loyal league foot soldiers in the media (Masters, Rothfield, Kent) carry on you'd think it would be.

                  Not so sure Sydney can cope with 4 football codes. There's only so much $$ that can go around. AFL is cashed up and prepared to lose a small fortune on GWS, but RL clubs, A-League and Union aren't in the same position.
                  If Sydney can't cope with 4 football codes, how many can it cope with? Who would go?

                  I think we can safely assume league will persist in some form or another. It might undergo a managed rationalisation, but the sheer size of the crowd at last year's preliminary final between the Eels and the Bulldogs indicates considerable latent demand for league in Sydney - especially for the established Sydney clubs.

                  How about soccer? It's hard to see soccer not being supported for the time being, especially given Sydney's enormous multicultural population, and especially if Australia hosts the 2018 or 2022 World Cup. It will get a huge boost if we win, but if we don't, the A-League might not last.

                  Union is very much a creature of the private school system, so they will always support it. But it seemed to peak with the World Cup several years ago. It's certainly off the boil at the moment.

                  That leaves AFL, the only code without a natural support base up here.

                  It seems to me AFL in Sydney will survive as long as the AFL is prepared to underwrite it. Our position is far more fragile than most care to admit - look what happened after last year's membership fiasco.

                  Obviously, Team GWS will have be underwritten for many years to some. I know the AFL is cashed up, but the cash will eventually run out at some point in the future. The other clubs won't keep wearing it.

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                  • Bas
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 4457

                    I've written this a few times now. The biggest problem for league out west is the abundance of Islander kids who are man mountains playing the game. Many parents don't want their kid "crushed" under an 80kg 9 year old.

                    So they ?ither go to soccer or AFL. Soccer charge a fortune to join and families with 2 to 3 boys find it difficult to pay.

                    The AFL should not only fund GWS but underwrite junior AFL so its quite cheap for kids to play AFL. As it is now, it is the cheapest code to join but make it cheaper.

                    Up here on the Central Coast , Mariners support has fallen dramatically over the last two years. Yet we are producing kids with potential for AFL Clubs. Not bad for a die hard league area.

                    I'd love to see GWS out collingwood collingwood supporters. How good would that be.

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                    • Wardy
                      The old Boiler!
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 6676

                      Originally posted by Industrial Fan
                      I only see that tripe giving AFL more publicity on the way through. I certainly dont think it hurts...
                      I understand what you mean and despite it all I do agree that all publicity is good pubicity, they just annoy the crap out of me thats all because they just keep banging on and on about "its war" yet they have not come up with any kind of solution to improve the popularity of League, so they just keep trashing the AFL instead.
                      I have been invited to a luncheon in a few weeks time where Windbag Wilson is one of the key note speakers - I am so tempted to throw a breadroll at her!. (yes childish, but I'm sure there would be a number of people who, given being in the same postion, would be ever so tempted to do the same thing!)
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                      • Jewels
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 3258

                        Originally posted by Wardy
                        I understand what you mean and despite it all I do agree that all publicity is good pubicity, they just annoy the crap out of me thats all because they just keep banging on and on about "its war" yet they have not come up with any kind of solution to improve the popularity of League, so they just keep trashing the AFL instead.
                        I have been invited to a luncheon in a few weeks time where Windbag Wilson is one of the key note speakers - I am so tempted to throw a breadroll at her!. (yes childish, but I'm sure there would be a number of people who, given being in the same postion, would be ever so tempted to do the same thing!)
                        Go on, do it Wardy, you know you want to!
                        Just think of the good laugh the rest of us will have imagining it!

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                        • Wardy
                          The old Boiler!
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 6676

                          Originally posted by Jewels
                          Go on, do it Wardy, you know you want to!
                          Just think of the good laugh the rest of us will have imagining it!
                          We were at Colless's presidents luncheon out at ANZ in 2008 and she was on the podium with Squires and Adam Spencer, the way she was going about how lovely and handsome the boys were and just the general dribble that was coming from her was nothing short of embarrassing from a woman her age and alleged professional experience - one of my colleagues just sat there unamused and said - "is this woman for real " we were all thinking exactly the same thing.
                          Last edited by Wardy; 12 February 2010, 12:01 PM.
                          I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
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                          AGE IS ONLY IMPORTANT FOR TWO THINGS - WINE & CHEESE!

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                          • Jewels
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 3258

                            Originally posted by Wardy
                            We were at the Colless's presidents luncheon out at ANZ in 2008 and she was on the podium with Squires and Adam Spencer, the way she was going about how lovely and handsome the boys were and just the general dribble that was coming from her was nothing short of embarrassing from a woman her age and alleged professional experience - one of my colleagues just sat there unamused and said - "is this woman for real " we we all thinking exactly the same thing.
                            I have a friend that attended that luncheon and made the very same remarks.
                            It is because of fools like her with her pitiful drooling, that makes female sports fans have to validate themselves and prove we watch the sport for the actual game and not just the "tight shorts".

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                            • AnnieH
                              RWOs Black Sheep
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 11332

                              Originally posted by Jewels
                              I have a friend that attended that luncheon and made the very same remarks.
                              It is because of fools like her with her pitiful drooling, that makes female sports fans have to validate themselves and prove we watch the sport for the actual game and not just the "tight shorts".
                              Speak for yourselves!!!
                              A bit of eye candy certainly doesn't hurt the cause.

                              Where's little Miss Primmy to back me up?
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                              • Wardy
                                The old Boiler!
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 6676

                                Originally posted by AnnieH
                                Speak for yourselves!!!
                                A bit of eye candy certainly doesn't hurt the cause.

                                Where's little Miss Primmy to back me up?
                                We certainly think it - but we aren't supposed to say it (because we acuse men of being pervs all the time!!! )

                                We should just say 'I like to watch" !!!
                                Last edited by Wardy; 10 February 2010, 10:14 AM.
                                I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
                                Chickens drink - but they don't pee!
                                AGE IS ONLY IMPORTANT FOR TWO THINGS - WINE & CHEESE!

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