Maybe.....just maybe...

[goswannie14]

John Longmire's appointment to be the next Swans coach, isn't going to just lead to more of the same negative game plans.

I for one was worried this was going to be the case, that it was going to be the same old same old. But given our recruiting of a number of faster "break the lines" type of players, maybe, just maybe, this is not going to be the case.

Anyone else been thinking along similar lines?

[Auntie.Gerald]

This one was raised a few months ago.......

for me there are various layers that come into play when reviewing the last couple of years.......and even the whole of Roo's coaching career....

he wanted us to build a game plan that won through offensive defence and control of the game via controlling the break downs and field position. We did that and he acquired the right type of players to execute this game plan...... his era, his way and he was very successful and I am eternally grateful for what Paul Roo's brought on so many levels.......some years we simply did not have the draft picks nor the depth to add flamboyant players as a compliment or a change of direction.

2010 we did !! partly because of our recruitment in 2008 and 2009 and our amazing trade week for 2010.

He also had to work within what he had........ and to change styles while juggling the legacy and career end of deserved warriors like Mick O and Baz Hall etc etc meant a little back end sacrafice for the front end and medium to success we had !

under a salary cap system one endures cycles of success.......now we are at that the bottom and we are about to rise up no doubt. Fingers crossed we are going to see a new era and a new brand just by they way we have recruited as we have an opportunity now to rebuild again.

Now remembering we have taken a risk........there is an opportunity cost..........though it is calculated, spectator compelling, potential laden.......but we had enough depth of solid young players before this last draft to take this risk........cause even if 4 out of 5 of the draftee's my not make it and we could still rise up via Vespa, Odwyer, Meredith, Hannebery, Johnston etc etc

[Bloody Hell]

John Longmire's appointment to be the next Swans coach, isn't going to just lead to more of the same negative game plans.

I for one was worried this was going to be the case, that it was going to be the same old same old. But given our recruiting of a number of faster "break the lines" type of players, maybe, just maybe, this is not going to be the case.

Anyone else been thinking along similar lines?

Think you've got to have the eggs and flour before you can put the icing on. Was the next logical part of the recipe considering the stock we have now. If we didn't have such a great trade week and looking a certainty to pick up Bradshaw I guarantee we would have drafted differently.

[goswannie14]

Think you've got to have the eggs and flour before you can put the icing on. Was the next logical part of the recipe considering the stock we have now. If we didn't have such a great trade week and looking a certainty to pick up Bradshaw I guarantee we would have drafted differently.

I was thinking more about this looking like a more attacking squad than we have had for years. Is that because, with Longmire to take over next year, he has had a bigger input? Does that also mean that the negative "ugly" football that won us a flag is a thing of the past.

Many here, me included, have been calling for a different game plan. Is this the start of it being formulated?

I was fearful that Longmire would just do the same as Roos. Is this a sign that this will not be the case?

The OP was more about game plan than drafting.

[Auntie.Gerald]

I also think that the change in rules went against our back end career players.....ie the ball was coming out of defence so much faster in 2009 but hey Mick and Hally and Barry and crouchy etc they struggled to keep up in 2009 but they deserved the last year of their contracts and sometimes the team an club sacrafice a year for prior success

game plan - yep smaller forwards and smaller backs seems to be the trend in 2008 and 2009 and going forward........the game is a triathlon and one needs a triathlon build !........go Jetta and Gary !!

[dimelb]

I was thinking more about this looking like a more attacking squad than we have had for years. Is that because, with Longmire to take over next year, he has had a bigger input? Does that also mean that the negative "ugly" football that won us a flag is a thing of the past.

Many here, me included, have been calling for a different game plan. Is this the start of it being formulated?

I was fearful that Longmire would just do the same as Roos. Is this a sign that this will not be the case?

The OP was more about game plan than drafting.

I think we started to see changes in the game plan this year: playing on occasionally, a bit more run and carry (and next season Shaw won't be the only one doing it), Bird's emerging role as a distributor, runners who can feed off Bird (and next season we'll have a couple more). How much of this came from Roos and how much from Longmire I'd be interested to know, but my hunch is that while Roos may have been handicapped by his loyalty to the old stagers, he has always had the flexibility of mind to adapt, tinker with and change the game plan. I think we'll see more of this.

[Primmy]

New personnel mix means different talent mix, means extended/expanded game plans that can accommodate the best talent we have available, not just what we had available.

Everything evolves. We could not have a massive running game with our main man in Ireland, and our other blokes good but not brilliant. That style of play just wasn't going to work all the time for us - at the time.

We now have had six or seven moves and retirements in one hit, and that means although the game plan may not change all that much, the ability of those who come in to put the plans into action may change the outcomes. Oh my, this is going to be interesting.

[RogueSwan]

...and that means although the game plan may not change all that much, the ability of those who come in to put the plans into action may change the outcomes. Oh my, this is going to be interesting.

Agreed, I think Roos has proven his style will win you finals.
Just look at the Pies, as much as I hate to say it, they are a very Swans like team at the moment.
Controlling possession, going wide if needed, and meeting the opposition 1 on 1.
Hopefully Roos/Longmire can boost our attack with the youngsters coming through whilst also maintaining our contested ball ability (not sure how to say that).

[Primmy]

Agreed, I think Roos has proven his style will win you finals.
Just look at the Pies, as much as I hate to say it, they are a very Swans like team at the moment.
Controlling possession, going wide if needed, and meeting the opposition 1 on 1.
Hopefully Roos/Longmire can boost our attack with the youngsters coming through whilst also maintaining our contested ball ability (not sure how to say that).

You are doing just fine.