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What you don't seem to understand is that GWS isn't about capitalising on demand; it's about CREATING demand, and then supplying it. Whether it works or not is yet to be seen, but the argument you're using, that there aren't enough people watching footy to justify it, is completely irrelevant, because it's about creating these ratings.Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!Comment
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What you don't seem to understand is that GWS isn't about capitalising on demand; it's about CREATING demand, and then supplying it. Whether it works or not is yet to be seen, but the argument you're using, that there aren't enough people watching footy to justify it, is completely irrelevant, because it's about creating these ratings.Comment
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What you don't seem to understand is that GWS isn't about capitalising on demand; it's about CREATING demand, and then supplying it. Whether it works or not is yet to be seen, but the argument you're using, that there aren't enough people watching footy to justify it, is completely irrelevant, because it's about creating these ratings.
Your second post that I've quoted above doesn't quite tally with your observation that the reasons are obvious. We understand why the AFL thinks it is doing what it is doing re a second team in Sydney, but it is far from obvious that it will work.
I really hope it does, even if it takes 10, 20 years. It will be great for the code in Sydney and therefore for the Swans. But I'm kinda with Cheer Squad that I see no obvious reason why it will work and plenty of evidence, based on the past 30 years, why it very well may not. We'll just all have to wait and see.Comment
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I'm sure Masters slaps himself before writing his usual crap.In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.Comment
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Your second post that I've quoted above doesn't quite tally with your observation that the reasons are obvious. We understand why the AFL thinks it is doing what it is doing re a second team in Sydney, but it is far from obvious that it will work.
I really hope it does, even if it takes 10, 20 years. It will be great for the code in Sydney and therefore for the Swans. But I'm kinda with Cheer Squad that I see no obvious reason why it will work and plenty of evidence, based on the past 30 years, why it very well may not. We'll just all have to wait and see.Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!Comment
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I'm not an enthusiast for AFL expansion without the shrinkage of Melbourne-based clubs, but the business logic of expansion is inescapable.The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible newsComment
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We are never all going to agree on this - some think it will be a failure, some want it to be a failure (although I have no idea why) - and there are those who are all for it.
the AFL are being the financial risk takers here, and they have the cash to do it. I hope that it is a success now quite simply because of all the rubbish that has been written in the Sydney media about how the AFL are trying to take over, which they aren't, and the likes of Mark Geyer, who struggles at the best of times to make any sense, banging on that "its war" well its not - I mean really - its just freakin footy!!!
There is room for everyone - But the good thing is that it has prompted the Swans to get off their arses and get cracking to improve their profile, get out there being seen instead of sitting on their hands and whinging about GWS like they have done since it was originally announced. We have to think of the bigger picture.Last edited by Wardy; 22 December 2009, 10:41 AM.I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
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Best case scenario is that both Sydney teams are strong and competitive. Imagine the atmosphere of a final out at homebush in front of 80,000 fans. I for one would love for that to occur.
How much more interesting would footy be if the Swans had their own arch enemy in their backyard just like in SA and WA. The local derbys would be big events and we know how Sydney loves a big event.
Sadly I just can't envisage it working this way but I hope I'm wrong.Last edited by Big Al; 22 December 2009, 08:23 AM...And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC
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Best case scenario is that both Sydney teams are strong and competitive. Imagine the atmosphere of a final out at homebush in front of 80,000 fans. I for one would love for that to occur.
How much more interesting would footy be if the Swans had their own arch enemy in their backyard just like in SA and WA. Tee local derbys would be big events and we know how Sydney loves a big event.
Sadly I just can't envisage it working this way but I hope I'm wrong.Last edited by Wardy; 22 December 2009, 10:41 AM.I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
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Good to see more and more people here are seeing the massive advantages of GWS to both the SSFC and the game.
The same tired arguments from the doomsayers were given as to why the VFL shouldn't 'risk' going into Sydney prior to 1982. Now that we have a decent share of the inner city/East/LNS, it is time to expand. We (AFL and the SSFC) have stagnated without further support.
The terrible mistakes that the VFL/AFL made with the Swans are not being repeated. We were sent here on a wing and a prayer. GWS will actually be properly supported - i.e. funded and promoted.
Once WS people see the game live and locally, they start to understand the game and are far more likely to watch on TV."As a player he simply should not have been able to do the things he did. Leo was a 185cm, 88kg full-back and played on some of the biggest, fastest and best full-forwards of all time, and constantly beat them." Roos.
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I'm with those who are cautiously optimistic. Given time, it will work, especially given the numbers of kids who seem to be taking up Auskick. The AFL is patient and has time and money and, more importantly, a thick skin. Once GWS is actually here, will the Terror still be running a campaign against it? It'd be a bit "anti-Sydney" to run against a team in your own city wouldn't it? The balancing act they'll have to try to manage while keeping their loyal punters happy will be interesting to observe.Today's a draft of your epitaphComment
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Well I know for a fact that the VFL did research before moving South Melbourne to Sydney . I don't know it as a fact , but I'd bet the life of Roy Masters that the AFL have done many times the research that the VFL did with the Swans and have looked at GWS from every angle .
Certainly it's a risky call , but from the Swans point of view it can only help them by generating more interest in AFL , derbies and general interest .
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Dunno if it's been said before, because I generally don't bother with GWS threads as they bore me, but GWS will be the underdog of the AFL when they come on board.
People love an underdog.
Swans will lose some fans, some members and some media coverage.
In the short term that is....The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.Comment
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