NAB cup rnd 2. Saints vs Swans Game Thread.

[giant]

Loved the game of our three young big defenders - Reg, Ted & LRT were awesome vs two of the best. LRT in particular belted Kosi.

The ruckman all contributed something at some point - Seaby was especially good, Mummy looked like he struggled to get to some contests but some great tapwork when he got there. He looks like an old-style ruckman to me and a match up versus a Cox or Natanui could become pretty messy. I thought Pyke showed he'd improved again, reading the play better and more confidence with his disposals. Don't write him off yet!

Thought the second half was excellent footy from both teams for February and on the whole very happy with that hit out - especially liked that we responded when they stepped up the pace after half time.

Oh, and you'd have to say MOD is a certain starter for round 1, no?

[undy]

I'm sick of the talking goat and frog!

Yeah - he's got the laptop there, why doesn't he just video them with the webcam ?

[sharp9]

I also went to the game, pleasantly surprised I also think we can beat them in round one. However this handballing and kicking backwards on the defensive line has to stop for us to achieve anything, and although LRT did beat Kosi its interesting how many times LRT is in the middle of these atrociaous handballing games on the backline, just kick it forward and dont go backwards. Goodes looked bad dropped balls in warm up. Mumford will improve with the run as will Okeefe. Although MOD got a lot of the ball his disposal is aweful and I dont thing he is in our best 22.

Sorry, but you need to look at the tape (I've just finished it)...O'Dwyer's disposal is very good....plus his stuff-up account is a lot lower than the rest of the back-line.

[sharp9]

On Seaby's 9 pointer...if you watch the tape the umpire's arm goes up about a step before he kicks it...ie at that moment he stepped over the mark and "play on" was called. As he was running in a straight line and the umpire did not actually stop and INDICATE the mark properly, I think that the umpire should have used his common sense and left it alone.

ON the other hand the rule is there to stop players running closer to goal and giving himself an easier kick...so....meh!?

Possibly Seaby lives in Richards/LRT/Bevan territory for footy IQ....hope not.

[baskin]

Not sure what the fuss about Seaby's kick is all about. In a real game it is what you want him to do. Do we want players going into the main season ready to play the real rules or Andy's dinky NAB cup nonsense. I know which I'd prefer. I wonder more about the IQ of those who have their knickers in a knot about Seaby's tactics. I was at the game, it had lots of up sides to it, and in the end we really won. I can't wait for the season to begin.

[andyn]

Forward line isn't even near complete so I wouldn't be too worried at this stage. With Bradshaw and White (who only played a very small part of the game) up forward, a lot of the formations they've played around with in the past two games will change. Goodes will go back to where he should play. I was impressed that we matched it with the saints given that they had both key forward targets playing, and we were playing 'try outs.' I thought Beven played well. LRT, Marty and Teddy were great

[giant]

Not sure what the fuss about Seaby's kick is all about. In a real game it is what you want him to do. Do we want players going into the main season ready to play the real rules or Andy's dinky NAB cup nonsense. I know which I'd prefer. I wonder more about the IQ of those who have their knickers in a knot about Seaby's tactics. I was at the game, it had lots of up sides to it, and in the end we really won. I can't wait for the season to begin.

My sentiments exactly. If the worse thing Seaby does this year is kick that goal, I'll be absolutely delighted.

[mariachi]

McGlynn. Anyone else concerned about his disposal? He's brave, hard at the ball and snapped a nice goal late, but it seemed to me that every other kick went astray both games I've seen, and often missed by a distance. Worrisome, and we have other crumbers

[ScottH]

McGlynn. Anyone else concerned about his disposal? He's brave, hard at the ball and snapped a nice goal late, but it seemed to me that every other kick went astray both games I've seen, and often missed by a distance. Worrisome, and we have other crumbers

+1

Mentioned it elsewhere.

[Margie]

Yeah - he's got the laptop there, why doesn't he just video them with the webcam ?

Good thinking!

[707]

McGlynn. Anyone else concerned about his disposal? He's brave, hard at the ball and snapped a nice goal late, but it seemed to me that every other kick went astray both games I've seen, and often missed by a distance. Worrisome, and we have other crumbers

Yes I'm also worried that he misses too many targets and missed targets costs goals against good teams. Looking at the AFL bible, his kicking efficiency has been very poor his whole career 2006-2009 it's been 64.6, 61.7, 59.4 and 62.9%, that means only three out of five kicks hit their target or two out of five don't and create turnovers. That's a very sobering set of stats.

[Primmy]

Rather think the little bloke is worried and hasn't settled into thinking he is a required player. He is another one playing anxious. I guess it happens a bit with recycled players; you feel you have to prove yourself worthy of the trust placed in you by the recruiting blokes all at once. He'll be ok, in time. I like the blighter. Dunks wasn't much of a kick but he could get the ball and handball off so there is hope.

Extra thought. He is a darned good tackler but....

O'Dwyer is going to be ok, once he gets rid of that moustache. Someone tell the lad, its a crook look! Aunty Primmy has spoken!

[BSA5]

Yes I'm also worried that he misses too many targets and missed targets costs goals against good teams. Looking at the AFL bible, his kicking efficiency has been very poor his whole career 2006-2009 it's been 64.6, 61.7, 59.4 and 62.9%, that means only three out of five kicks hit their target or two out of five don't and create turnovers. That's a very sobering set of stats.

That's not actually how DE works. It's not inefficient when it causes a turnover, it's inefficient if it isn't collected uncontested. So kicks to a contest won't be considered efficient, nor will kicks that are fumbled by the recipient. At least, I'm pretty sure that's how it works. It's definitely not like that though. Most players have a DE around 70.

[Lucky Knickers]

Roos won't drag him for mistakes so he's at the right club if it is a confidence issue. He does seem to overkick rather than underkick IIRC. Let's hope they don't send him to BBBBHs eye surgeon if he is a touch short-sighted.

[liz]

Realistically, we weren't going to trade for a 23 year old who is tough, reasonably quick and knows how to win the ball for a 4th round pick if he also has laser like disposal skills. Hopefully he can cut down on the worst of his disposal errors but it is a flaw in his game that is going to stop him ever being a sooperstar. It just comes down to whether his other attributes compensate for his weakness, and also to team balance (ie how many others have similar flaws).