Mitchell watch

[Billericay]

Because none of the players the Hawks seem willing to part with would be of much interest to the Suns, not for such a high draft pick/O'Meara, anyway.

Hawks are going to have to give a decent player to GCS to get the deal done. I think someone like Breust will have to be on the table.
But I wonder if there is anyone on our list that could be on traded to GCS? Of the Towers, Nankervis, BJ variety?
Tom Harley said Towers and Nankervis were required players, but that doesn't mean they won't be traded right?

[Beerman]

Tom Harley said Towers and Nankervis were required players, but that doesn't mean they won't be traded right?

They'll be traded tomorrow is my guess, based on that commentI [emoji57]

[Mountain Man]

I wonder what improvement Tom has in him - perhaps kicking is the only weakness and Hawthorn has proved to build elite skills into their players.
He could become a very good player indeed.

[ernie koala]

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There's no way we'll get Breust. No way.

Probably we won't...But I don't run with... "No way".

Bruest(26 years old) was 10th in their B&F. Mitchell(23 years old) was 8th in ours...They are on a similar level, it gets down to need.

A swap of these 2, and some draft sweeteners on their behalf, would seem fair and reasonable to me......Assuming he would want to come to our fair city.

[MattW]

Hawks are going to have to give a decent player to GCS to get the deal done. I think someone like Breust will have to be on the table.
But I wonder if there is anyone on our list that could be on traded to GCS? Of the Towers, Nankervis, BJ variety?
Tom Harley said Towers and Nankervis were required players, but that doesn't mean they won't be traded right?

Notably, Harley only said 'hoped' they stay. Unless a player has said they want to leave or discussed leaving with the club, the club wouldn't sensibly reveal they're tradeable.

Having said that GCS surely wouldn't trade for those three. Towers or Jack are not going to improve culture or quality and they seem pretty well stocked for talls.

[Steve]

It will be fascinating to see how Hawthorn get both trades done.

They really only have late 1st round picks to offer - this year and you would expect they'd end up in a similar position next year.

That's where the generic talk of "1st round pick" is misleading. What Hawthorn have is only a slight upgrade on an early 2nd round pick.

Gold Coast want players, but Hawthorn are clearly only offering Box Hill players at this stage (Langford, Schoemakers, Litherland etc).

So I can't see how they're going to satisfy the Suns for O'Meara on his own, let alone giving enough to convince them to pass back a higher pick.

Regardless, even if we take picks 14 and 34 from Hawthorn (or whatever those current picks end up at after FA etc), it might be OK once you add it to our existing picks 17 and 37.

This draft is apparently very even through to about 40, so given our record in getting good players in that 30-40 range, 4 picks in the top 40 will be good.

[Levii3]

I wonder what improvement Tom has in him - perhaps kicking is the only weakness and Hawthorn has proved to build elite skills into their players.
He could become a very good player indeed.

Toms benefited greatly from being the fourth mid he rarely gets tagged and just goes about his business. At Hawthorn he'll be tagged or closely checked every week.

[Cressakel2]

Highly unlikely to happen but we should ask for Cyril in the Mitchell trade. Just to see the media lose it.. Again.

Buddy did say very cheekily at the AA awards that Cyril will be at the Swans next year...


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[Cressakel2]

I'm not so sure. I hope the Swans go after him. He's just about to turn 26, in his prime...Offer him a long, back ended, contract.

If we could persuade him to the red and white he would be a fantastic inclusion. He's durable, classy, pacy, and a proven big game player.

He averages 2 goals, 16 disposals, 4 tackles per game ...as a forward pocket.

Given it looks like Heeney will move to the midfield next year, and McGlynn is gone, he would be a perfect pick up.

Doesn't like the hard ball, soft as butter....Longmire and co will put a line through his name straight away! I actually like Billy Hartung - quick on the outside and tough as nails. Or that annoying rat Sicily - can play that boy...


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[Mug Punter]

Doesn't like the hard ball, soft as butter....Longmire and co will put a line through his name straight away! I actually like Billy Hartung - quick on the outside and tough as nails. Or that annoying rat Sicily - can play that boy...


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No to Sicily please, A grade dickhead and loose as a goose from reports.

I think we'll go back to growing our own and if we upgrade four we'll have a good intake at the rookie draft too and I hope that, all things being equal I'd like to draft Sydney boys at the rookie list.

Wondering with the cash that we get to save from Mitchell leaving that we might try and expand the list to 39 and draft Ben Davis if he is available.

[Mug Punter]

It will be fascinating to see how Hawthorn get both trades done.

They really only have late 1st round picks to offer - this year and you would expect they'd end up in a similar position next year.

That's where the generic talk of "1st round pick" is misleading. What Hawthorn have is only a slight upgrade on an early 2nd round pick.

Gold Coast want players, but Hawthorn are clearly only offering Box Hill players at this stage (Langford, Schoemakers, Litherland etc).

So I can't see how they're going to satisfy the Suns for O'Meara on his own, let alone giving enough to convince them to pass back a higher pick.

Regardless, even if we take picks 14 and 34 from Hawthorn (or whatever those current picks end up at after FA etc), it might be OK once you add it to our existing picks 17 and 37.

This draft is apparently very even through to about 40, so given our record in getting good players in that 30-40 range, 4 picks in the top 40 will be good.

Picks 14, 17, 34 and 37 would be tempting though I fully expect the Hawks to be A grade dicks at the trade table, I really hope we play hardball here and not just because he lied to Annie I am absolutely sure a St Kilda, Essendon or Carlton will snap him up in the PSD and how I would love the little rat to end up trekking down the Mornington Peninsula each day for work

[Doctor]

He's dead to me now. Talented player but not part of our culture, regardless of whether or not you think it's a myth or not. We need to drive as hard bargain as we can for him, bearing in mind that this "club of choice" BS is making an absolute mockery of the trade period. It's just free agency dressed up as a trade period. The AFL needs to change it, but they won't.

[goswannies]

He's dead to me now. Talented player but not part of our culture, regardless of whether or not you think it's a myth or not. We need to drive as hard bargain as we can for him, bearing in mind that this "club of choice" BS is making an absolute mockery of the trade period. It's just free agency dressed up as a trade period. The AFL needs to change it, but they won't.

I'm hurt by his decision - but all will be forgiven by me if he does a RO'K

[Levii3]

Would be happy with pick 14 and round 3 or pick 14 and Kieran Lovell. Was taken pick 22 last year he's short, he's only 174cm but he average 35 disposals in his u-18 year. Tested really well in beep test and goal kicking finishing top 10.

Pick 22: Kieran Lovell - hawthornfc.com.au

[Odysseus]

Picks 14, 17, 34 and 37 would be tempting though I fully expect the Hawks to be A grade dicks at the trade table, I really hope we play hardball here and not just because he lied to Annie I am absolutely sure a St Kilda, Essendon or Carlton will snap him up in the PSD and how I would love the little rat to end up trekking down the Mornington Peninsula each day for work

Dear Mug, This comment is most unkind. Mornington Peninsula is a lovely place. There's a cafe called the Rocks at Mornington, where I get my caffeine fix three or four times a week. It overlooks the bay and is very peaceful. I live on the Mornington Peninsula and would not be happy to see any rats in this vicinity.

I can agree, however, that I hope we play hardball.