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  • Matt79
    Bring it on!
    • Sep 2004
    • 3143

    Originally posted by AnnieH
    I think I read an article somewhere over the weekend that Mitchell is on contract until the end of 2017 and isn't going anywhere.
    Close the thread.
    That was Sam Mitchell Annie. Our Tommy remains unsigned.
    Swannies for life!

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    • Levii3
      Regular in the Side
      • Jun 2015
      • 655

      If Mitchell want to leave go to the hawks then if not Brad Hill who they would be willing to trade they would never trade Sicily. Tim O'Brien would be a good second forward option Sam Reid just keeps struggling to stay on the park.

      If Mitchell were to leave wouldn't be that big a loss Issac is ready to play Midfield next year, we just need another forward option(should've kept Membrey)

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      • dimelb
        pr. dim-melb; m not f
        • Jun 2003
        • 6889

        Originally posted by Levii3
        If Mitchell want to leave go to the hawks then if not Brad Hill who they would be willing to trade they would never trade Sicily. Tim O'Brien would be a good second forward option Sam Reid just keeps struggling to stay on the park.

        If Mitchell were to leave wouldn't be that big a loss Issac is ready to play Midfield next year, we just need another forward option (should've kept Membrey)
        We've got them - Abaina Davis and X Richards.
        He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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        • Ludwig
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 9359

          Originally posted by Levii3
          If Mitchell want to leave go to the hawks then if not Brad Hill who they would be willing to trade they would never trade Sicily. Tim O'Brien would be a good second forward option Sam Reid just keeps struggling to stay on the park.

          If Mitchell were to leave wouldn't be that big a loss Issac is ready to play Midfield next year, we just need another forward option(should've kept Membrey)
          if it does turn out that Tom Mitchell wants to go to the Hawks (and I don't think that this will happen), then we should trade for draft picks only. Most of their good players are over the hill and we really don't need any of their other players who aren't stars. They won't trade Sicily. Brad Hill is ordinary and many are calling for him to be dropped.

          Since Hawthorn don't have any high enough draft picks, a possible trade might be: Tom Mitchell + our 2016 2nd round draft pick for Hawthorn's 1st round picks in 2016 and 2017. This sort of trade translates into a value points equivalent of around pick 8 or 9. I looks reasonable to me.

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          • Levii3
            Regular in the Side
            • Jun 2015
            • 655

            Originally posted by Ludwig
            if it does turn out that Tom Mitchell wants to go to the Hawks (and I don't think that this will happen), then we should trade for draft picks only. Most of their good players are over the hill and we really don't need any of their other players who aren't stars. They won't trade Sicily. Brad Hill is ordinary and many are calling for him to be dropped.

            Since Hawthorn don't have any high enough draft picks, a possible trade might be: Tom Mitchell + our 2016 2nd round draft pick for Hawthorn's 1st round picks in 2016 and 2017. This sort of trade translates into a value points equivalent of around pick 8 or 9. I looks reasonable to me.
            JPK wasn't a star but has been top 3 player last 6 seasons for us. We make players better

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            • Ludwig
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 9359

              Originally posted by Levii3
              JPK wasn't a star but has been top 3 player last 6 seasons for us. We make players better
              It may very well be true that we make players better, but that has little to do with getting fair trade value.

              In any case, I think Hawthorn are just as good as us at getting the most out of a player. Their coaching staff is widely regarded as the best in the business, and many assistants now hold top coaching jobs at other clubs.

              As for JPK, he was was an emerging player at Hawthorn and once he got into the side in 2009 he held his spot for the final 10 games of the season. He was already showing that he could become a future star. To this day few can understand how Hawthorn let him go so cheaply, except that they couldn't offer him a role as an inside midfielder due to the strength of their team. It's not dissimilar to what the Swans are at this time where players like Mills, Heeney, Jones and Hewett can't break into the core midfield group.

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              • kilroy
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Jun 2016
                • 133

                I dont know if he was an emerging player, he just played the type of footy that was best suited to the swans and not the hawks, who at that stage were building a game plan around holding the ball and sharing it around until they found players in space.

                They wouldn't have let him go if they saw the contested beast that we saw in 2009. Plus I honestly think being out of the spotlight and having zero pressure as opposed to being at a club were your old man was still part of the winning furniture from the 80s and ran a section of the club, would have helped immensely.

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                • caj23
                  Senior Player
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 2462

                  Originally posted by CureTheSane
                  If that's the case, and I'm not sure it is, then what you are doing as making a strong case for a delisting by the Swans.
                  I've got no idea of his contract status, nor where he sits in the pecking order with the match committee, but that is a possibility (although I'm sure they'd present it as a retirement). Personally I think he's got enough credits in the bank to earn another season, but it may depend on rookie elevations, other contracts etc. He may be vulnerable with us needing to fit Mitchell into the salary cap

                  What I can say with 100% certainty is that he is no chance to be playing at another AFL club next year

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                  • The Big Cat
                    On the veteran's list
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 2349

                    Brian Waldron on SEN is saying that Tom Mitchell is off to Hawthorn and will be replaced at the Swans by ...... Jaeger O'Meara!!! I think I'd take that.
                    Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                    • ugg
                      Can you feel it?
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                      • Jan 2003
                      • 15961

                      Originally posted by The Big Cat
                      Brian Waldron on SEN is saying that Tom Mitchell is off to Hawthorn and will be replaced at the Swans by ...... Jaeger O'Meara!!! I think I'd take that.
                      Brian Waldron of Melbourne Storm salary cap cheating fame?
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                      • Plugger46
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 3674

                        Originally posted by ugg
                        Brian Waldron of Melbourne Storm salary cap cheating fame?
                        That's the one. Quite good to listen to actually.
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                        • The Big Cat
                          On the veteran's list
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 2349

                          Waldron also saying the news on the street is that Tom McDonald is in Swans' sights.
                          Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                          • ugg
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                            • Jan 2003
                            • 15961

                            Originally posted by Plugger46
                            That's the one. Quite good to listen to actually.
                            Okay but what would give him particular inside knowledge on AFL player movements?
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                            • dejavoodoo44
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 8492

                              Originally posted by ugg
                              Okay but what would give him particular inside knowledge on AFL player movements?
                              Hopefully he's been working behind the scenes at Hawthorn. I mean, (based on absolutely no evidence) I've often hoped that Hawthorn would one be revealed as the Melbourne Storm of AFL.

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                              • mcs
                                Travelling Swannie!!
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 8149

                                Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                                Hopefully he's been working behind the scenes at Hawthorn. I mean, (based on absolutely no evidence) I've often hoped that Hawthorn would one be revealed as the Melbourne Storm of AFL.
                                The joy of such an occurrence would run a close 2nd to the elation of winning a flag

                                He hardly strikes me as being someone that would be 'in the know' however.

                                I'd take O'Meara though - the guy is all class and just needs a change and to get his body right.
                                "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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