Unless you are Nick Riewoldt - umpires are happy for you to be assassinated - P Roos

[Hartijon]

Snow White may have too much ink in his arm to actually lift it up to take a grab?

Oh Master, Grasshopper would like to know about the karma of free kicks awarded against you. I seem to remember in 05 many bad decisions (Goodes tripped.Leo penalised 50) but we built up all these brownie points which were all paid back in the GF. Hall was not suspended(HOw ??????) and the umpires gave us a good ride in the GF. If this is true,then bring on the bad decisions in the minor round and let the God of karma reward us in the Finals for all our suffering??? Is this true Oh Master?

[Molly dooker]

Jessie is a player in the making and has immense potential due to size, skill and a need to succeed. He has to get used to the spotlight and it isn't always going to look pretty on him.

What the Swans have to do is avoid making another state of mind like Nick Davis, where he thought it would all just happen because his skills were freakish. What destroyed him was his ......

EGO

Roosy is doing what he thinks will mentor this young man to be the best of his ability by whatever pop psychology he can and if he succeeds in keeping a lid on this boys id, we are the ones that will be rewarded as well.

[Steve]

What the Swans have to do is avoid making another state of mind like Nick Davis, where he thought it would all just happen because his skills were freakish. What destroyed him was his ......

EGO

Roosy is doing what he thinks will mentor this young man to be the best of his ability by whatever pop psychology he can and if he succeeds in keeping a lid on this boys id, we are the ones that will be rewarded as well.

I take your point, but my concern is that if Roosy really thinks he has another Nick Davis on his hands that warrants that sort of management, then is it worth the trouble, considering it would more than likely to turn to @@@@ anyway?

I think it just puts into context the significance of the issue (be it ego or otherwise) in Roos' mind, the way he handles White compared to every other player I can recall (including Davis).

[Lucky Knickers]

Jesse is learning his craft. He's not going to get it right every week in fact he's probably going to get it more wrong than right in this early part of his career and I think that's all Roos was saying in his usual style.
They've profiled all these players so deeply that they predict their reactions and understand how to manage and motivate. Jesse may well be a player who responds to directness.
If Jesse can't cop that on the chin at 22 yo then he needs to change jobs because as he gets better and his profile grows, which it will, he is going to be subject to an awful lot attention and his failure to perform on the big stage is going to lead to a lot of scrutiny.
I actually think by Roos stating it was a crap game but 'hey that's to be expected with a young player' is exactly the right message to both the media ("hey lay off and there's not a problem so drop it") and to Jesse ("you were bad but don't beat yourself up head down work hard")

In all fairness to both Jesse, Nicky D and Roos, the circumstances are entirely different. IMO they can't be compared and to do so is unfair to all involved.

[dimelb]

Jesse is learning his craft. He's not going to get it right every week in fact he's probably going to get it more wrong than right in this early part of his career and I think that's all Roos was saying in his usual style.
They've profiled all these players so deeply that they predict their reactions and understand how to manage and motivate. Jesse may well be a player who responds to directness.
If Jesse can't cop that on the chin at 22 yo then he needs to change jobs because as he gets better and his profile grows, which it will, he is going to be subject to an awful lot attention and his failure to perform on the big stage is going to lead to a lot of scrutiny.
I actually think by Roos stating it was a crap game but 'hey that's to be expected with a young player' is exactly the right message to both the media ("hey lay off and there's not problem so drop") and to Jesse ("you were bad but don't beat yourself up head down work hard")

In all fairness to both Jesse, Nicky D and Roos, the circumstances are entirely different. IMO they can't be compared and to do so is unfair to all involved.

Quite so.

[CJK]

No charges for Dawson.

Justin Koschitzke faces a three-game ban.


Swans mystified why Dawson escapes charge - Official AFL Website of the Sydney Swans Football Club

[chalbilto]

No charges for Dawson.

Justin Koschitzke faces a three-game ban.


Swans mystified why Dawson escapes charge - Official AFL Website of the Sydney Swans Football Club

I believe most posters believe that Dawson was going for the ball, but was late and hit him on the head. Careless, yes, but I believe not malicious. Most were expecting a 50 metre penalty. That is what is puzzling.

[Triple B]

I believe most posters believe that Dawson was going for the ball, but was late and hit him on the head. Careless, yes, but I believe not malicious. Most were expecting a 50 metre penalty. That is what is puzzling.

I agree.

It was late and a bit crude, but tbh, I think a 50 would have been sufficient punishment. The fact we didn't even get that makes me crankier than Dawson getting off.

[AnnieH]

The 50 was there. Maggots gave away three of the softest frees I've ever seen in my life - in front of goal each time.

As for White, maybe if he got his mind out of the harem and into some extra marking practice ...

[AnnieH]

I'm still laughing ... maggots sponsor is OPSM.
Best. Sponsorship. Ever.

[Lucky Knickers]

Dawson did make contact with the ball when he punched it out of Tadgh hands. I think the ground did the most damage when he came down.
The one that I find staggering is Hille getting off. He looked like he deliberately lined up Bartel once it was clear he wasn't going to make the contest (sorry to post in Swans thread but annoyed).
If Kosi got 4 for that hit on Eski, Hille deserves at least same.
I thought Kosi was laying a genuine bump but being 100 foot taller than Melcho lead to the contact to the head.
MRP have set the scene for another season of the bizarre, inconsistent and inexplicable.

[laughingnome]

I'm still laughing ... maggots sponsor is OPSM.
Best. Sponsorship. Ever.

I remember reading when it was announced that as part of the deal OPSM is giving all AFL umpires free eye tests throughout the year.

I suppose if you were looking for a sponsor for the umpires, who better then an optometry company?

[dimelb]

I remember reading when it was announced that as part of the deal OPSM is giving all AFL umpires free eye tests throughout the year.

I suppose if you were looking for a sponsor for the umpires, who better then an optometry company?

Perhaps an undertaker?

[liz]

Dawson did make contact with the ball when he punched it out of Tadgh hands. I think the ground did the most damage when he came down.
The one that I find staggering is Hille getting off. He looked like he deliberately lined up Bartel once it was clear he wasn't going to make the contest (sorry to post in Swans thread but annoyed).
If Kosi got 4 for that hit on Eski, Hille deserves at least same.
I thought Kosi was laying a genuine bump but being 100 foot taller than Melcho lead to the contact to the head.
MRP have set the scene for another season of the bizarre, inconsistent and inexplicable.

Can't agree with that. Wouldn't have been surprised if Hille had got one week, but not particularly surprised he didn't. At least it happened in a contest, one that Hille was entitled to be in and was committed too. He didn't need to turn into Bartel the way he did but once in the air he had a split second to decide what to do.

Kossie, on the other hand, made a deliberate decision to bump a player not contesting the ball. Not only was Malceski not contesting the ball, he was off balance and far enough away from the ball that he was not likely to influence the contest. Kossie had other choices - like maybe to contest the ball himself. I don't think Mal fell much between Kossie lining him up and actually making contact. I don't see how Kossie could possibly have made contact to the body, and only the body, in that action. Indeed, I think Kossie has got off pretty lightly given the AFL says it wants to crack down on things like this. It was far more blatant and deliberate than the one Shaun Burgoyne got weeks for a few years ago. I think Kossie (and Malceski) is very lucky he didn't do more damage.

[Nico]

Can't agree with that. Wouldn't have been surprised if Hille had got one week, but not particularly surprised he didn't. At least it happened in a contest, one that Hille was entitled to be in and was committed too. He didn't need to turn into Bartel the way he did but once in the air he had a split second to decide what to do.

Kossie, on the other hand, made a deliberate decision to bump a player not contesting the ball. Not only was Malceski not contesting the ball, he was off balance and far enough away from the ball that he was not likely to influence the contest. Kossie had other choices - like maybe to contest the ball himself. I don't think Mal fell much between Kossie lining him up and actually making contact. I don't see how Kossie could possibly have made contact to the body, and only the body, in that action. Indeed, I think Kossie has got off pretty lightly given the AFL says it wants to crack down on things like this. It was far more blatant and deliberate than the one Shaun Burgoyne got weeks for a few years ago. I think Kossie (and Malceski) is very lucky he didn't do more damage.

Interesting that Ko@@@@ski crashed and bashed all night and came from behind to do it most times that tells me he is frightened to genuinely put his head over the ball given his appalling awareness. If he keeps playing this way he won't play too many games this year.

His stats: 9 possessions, 2 marks, 5 uncontested, 2 tackles, 2 clangers, 2 goals. Didn't get near the ball much all night but acted tough. Probably the most overrated player of modern times.