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  • JC 14
    On the Rookie List
    • Sep 2008
    • 28

    Ruck Combo

    I know its only round 1 but i thought big Mumford and Seaby were great on Sat night, Seaby started off well and did not look slow like i thought he would considering all his football was in the WAFL in 09.

    Mumford was slow to get into the game but really lifted in the last quarter, and 50 H/O combined compared to 36 for the Saints was a clear win to us.

    Ponders the question that i think these 2 together are a superior combo when compared to Jolly / White/Pyke from the last year? The two together are prob on what Jolly was on last season...
  • swans_premiers
    On the Rookie List
    • Feb 2003
    • 1101

    #2
    Interestingly Jolly only got 16 hitouts on sunday. Seaby got something like 28?
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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16772

      #3
      Could be a strength for us this weekend. Griffin was very ordinary against Freo, even allowing for the fact he was up against Sandilands. The Crows could bring Maric in but he is still pretty inexperienced himself.

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      • Mountain Man
        Regular in the Side
        • Feb 2008
        • 908

        #4
        The time-on-ground of 56% and 65% seems to reflect that they also had some useful roles when not in the Ruck. As I recall ast year it was Jolly some 70% and ano a bare 30%

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        • goswannie14
          Leadership Group
          • Sep 2005
          • 11166

          #5
          I was very impressed with the Swans ruckwork. Seaby, in particular, was a real revelation.
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          • Chilcott
            Regular in the Side
            • Jan 2008
            • 595

            #6
            When I heard we were targeting Seaby as a recruit, I very much had my doubts. Didn't think he was much of a player.

            However, his form in the pre-season and round 1 indicates he may be a very handy player for us.

            Goes to show how little I know,when compared to the match committee.

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            • dimelb
              pr. dim-melb; m not f
              • Jun 2003
              • 6889

              #7
              Originally posted by goswannie14
              I was very impressed with the Swans ruckwork. Seaby, in particular, was a real revelation.
              Originally posted by Chilcott
              When I heard we were targeting Seaby as a recruit, I very much had my doubts. Didn't think he was much of a player.

              However, his form in the pre-season and round 1 indicates he may be a very handy player for us.
              Goes to show how little I know,when compared to the match committee.
              I put him in the votes for the TLM
              He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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              • Jeffers1984
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 4564

                #8
                How was the Mumford tap to O'Keefe in the last quarter? ROK bloody missed the shot which was very gettable but i remember shouting out AWESOME TAP MUMMY when i saw it live.
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                • RogueSwan
                  McVeigh for Brownlow
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 4602

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JC 14
                  I know its only round 1 but i thought big Mumford and Seaby were great on Sat night, Seaby started off well and did not look slow like i thought he would considering all his football was in the WAFL in 09...
                  I am pretty sure it has been said before on here. I think Seaby was in the WAFL because the Weagles knew he didn't want to play for them anymore, so they figured they may as well put games into a ruckman that was going to hang around.
                  I was never concerned that he wasn't AFL standard.
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                  • goswannie14
                    Leadership Group
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 11166

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jeffers1984
                    How was the Mumford tap to O'Keefe in the last quarter? ROK bloody missed the shot which was very gettable but i remember shouting out AWESOME TAP MUMMY when i saw it live.
                    It was exactly the same tap as the Nick Davis goal in 05 and the tap to Monty that won us the GF. Obviously Ball is still around the club.
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                    • liz
                      Veteran
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16772

                      #11
                      Originally posted by goswannie14
                      It was exactly the same tap as the Nick Davis goal in 05 and the tap to Monty that won us the GF. Obviously Ball is still around the club.
                      He probably is - at least in board capacity. But Steve Taubert is more likely to be the link.

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                      • liz
                        Veteran
                        Site Admin
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 16772

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RogueSwan
                        I am pretty sure it has been said before on here. I think Seaby was in the WAFL because the Weagles knew he didn't want to play for them anymore, so they figured they may as well put games into a ruckman that was going to hang around.
                        I was never concerned that he wasn't AFL standard.
                        That is a bit circular really. All Seaby's comments indicate he just wanted to play AFL footy - and wanted to leave the Eagles because they weren't giving him that opportunity.

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                        • Primmy
                          Proud Tragic Swan
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 5970

                          #13
                          I agree with you Liz - any of the boys who come within Steve Taubets Orbit seem to improve expidentially. Add to that their previous experience and a certain degree of talent and belief then we are doing ok, and so are they. What I saw of MikePyke during ressies on Sat showed how much he has travelled too. All in all I think our stocks are healthy, and I do believe the boys will be the happier knowing they can ruck and push up as well thereby having a far greater contribution overall. Its all good, as they say.
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                          • mcs
                            Travelling Swannie!!
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 8166

                            #14
                            I was very impressed by them on Saturday night. I was worried we would really miss Jolly, but so far so good!

                            On the subject of Jolly, just how good unfortunately will the Ferals play when he finds his feet. He was awful against the Dogs imo, once he gets going look out I'm afraid.
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                            • SimonH
                              Salt future's rising
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 1647

                              #15
                              Seaby solid, workmanlike, nothing remarkable, but we'll be happy if he fronts up like that all year.

                              Mumford has a huge upside. He looks far more assured with a footy in his hands than any AFL ruckman at his experience level has a right to. If he can keep improving his fitness without succumbing to injuries, then Geelong could be really, really cursing that they let him slip, for many years to come. (With Geelong's salary cap position and the huge amount of cap space that fell into our laps in the course of 2009, I don't doubt that they had no reasonable chance of keeping him once we'd put together an offer-- they would've been unable to put any counter-offer of even remotely similar quantum.) Very smart sharking, Swans' recruiters.

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