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  • Old Royboy
    Support Staff
    • Mar 2004
    • 879

    Selection Policy

    I?ve collated the reserves best players lists from both the official club reports and our unofficial ones. Makes interesting reading.

    Crusher Currie 8/10
    Dill McNeil 7/10
    MOD 7/10
    Vez 7/10
    Pyke 6/9 (promoted)
    LJ 4/10 (RWO = 3/4)
    ?Jonesy? Heath 3/10 (RWO = 0/6)
    Bluey Rohan 3/8 (promoted)
    Cheese 2/9 (promoted)
    Henry 2/10 (promoted)
    TTed 0/5 (promoted)
    Bevan 0/10
    I make a few conclusions from this.
    1. The club prefers to play ?has beens?, ?never have beens and never will bes? or list cloggers ? all of whom can?t even make the best players list in the ressies, against those actually showing some from.
    2. Thus, the next player to be promoted will be Bevan!!!!
    3. Rohan probably did not deserve his promotion - Vez and MOD have every reason to be upset.
    4. Somebody at the club is seeing something in Campbell Heath that Primmy and I are blind to.
    5. Reverse applies to Lewis Johnston.
    6. The Dill will be a star.
    7. Thus far, performances of those who have been promoted have reflected their reserves form.
    8. Henry will have a shocker on Saturday.
    9. Crusher had better start looking for a new club.
    The injuries and suspensions we have had have been unfortunate, but I am downright filthy about the selection policy that prevails.
    Pay peanuts get monkeys
  • wearebloods
    Footy!
    • Aug 2009
    • 244

    #2
    Nice work!

    The next question is how much of this years selection policy is the work of Horse or does Roos still hold the reins?
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    • ernie koala
      Senior Player
      • May 2007
      • 3251

      #3
      Originally posted by Old Royboy
      I?ve collated the reserves best players lists from both the official club reports and our unofficial ones. Makes interesting reading.

      Crusher Currie 8/10
      Dill McNeil 7/10
      MOD 7/10
      Vez 7/10
      Pyke 6/9 (promoted)
      LJ 4/10 (RWO = 3/4)
      ?Jonesy? Heath 3/10 (RWO = 0/6)
      Bluey Rohan 3/8 (promoted)
      Cheese 2/9 (promoted)
      Henry 2/10 (promoted)
      TTed 0/5 (promoted)
      Bevan 0/10
      I make a few conclusions from this.
      1. The club prefers to play ?has beens?, ?never have beens and never will bes? or list cloggers ? all of whom can?t even make the best players list in the ressies, against those actually showing some from.
      2. Thus, the next player to be promoted will be Bevan!!!!
      3. Rohan probably did not deserve his promotion - Vez and MOD have every reason to be upset.
      4. Somebody at the club is seeing something in Campbell Heath that Primmy and I are blind to.
      5. Reverse applies to Lewis Johnston.
      6. The Dill will be a star.
      7. Thus far, performances of those who have been promoted have reflected their reserves form.
      8. Henry will have a shocker on Saturday.
      9. Crusher had better start looking for a new club.
      The injuries and suspensions we have had have been unfortunate, but I am downright filthy about the selection policy that prevails.
      Couldn't agree more. Sellecting Playfair is a woeful mistake. As I've said many times, he's slow, soft and can't kick. Talk about going backwards.
      We won some early games playing a more dynamic fast attacking style. I'd like to know how Playfair fits into that style....he doesn't.
      Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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      • hammo
        Veterans List
        • Jul 2003
        • 5554

        #4
        Yes nice work ORB very interesting read.

        So much for the exciting new Swans.
        "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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        • Matty10
          Senior Player
          • Jun 2007
          • 1331

          #5
          Interesting list, and as I have not seen the reserves play it is hard to comment on the scores, nevertheless selections for the Swans senior team would not be based simply on who is deemed to have played amongst the best in semi-official / non-official reports. It would be the same at most clubs.

          The other comment I would make is that although it may appear a certain player was better than another, without an insight into the coaches' instructions it would be difficult to assess. There is also their performance on the training track each week which would have an influence.

          Most of the AFL inclusions to our team, if not all of them, have been based on our need to replace an important player (defence & ruck in particular), which makes sense why certain players have just not been able to break into the team (such as MOD where our half back stocks have been plentiful).

          I don't think the selections have been that bad - whether or not they should have played Barlow in the first place - they did drop him the very next week based on performance. Others who have stayed in the team, even though their performances have been widely criticised, has been based on structural necessity.

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          • BSA5
            Senior Player
            • Feb 2008
            • 2522

            #6
            Isn't Heath being given shut-down roles? Could that be why RWOers aren't seeing what the coaches are seeing?
            Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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            • Bloody Hell
              Senior Player
              • Oct 2006
              • 3085

              #7
              Originally posted by Old Royboy
              9. Crusher had better start looking for a new club.
              The injuries and suspensions we have had have been unfortunate, but I am downright filthy about the selection policy that prevails.
              I've had the same thoughts...
              The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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              • Bloody Hell
                Senior Player
                • Oct 2006
                • 3085

                #8
                But presumably this is part of a long term plan hatched by Roos with regard to Currie. I will be suprised if he doesn't get one game in the next 3 months (Seaby). Otherwise....I can see him going the way of Jolly, Mumford etc - with us on the receiving end.
                Originally posted by Bloody Hell
                I've had the same thoughts...
                The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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                • ShockOfHair
                  One Man Out
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 3668

                  #9
                  I don't see the big deal.
                  Hannebery got promoted. Rohan got promoted - neither is a list-clogger.
                  Richards got promoted after Bolton was injured - as you'd expect.
                  Playfair's been given the nod because our lead ruck has played ten games of footy in his entire life. Currie didn't look like a league player in the pre-season and still doesn't.
                  The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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                  • Young Blood
                    On the rise
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 541

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ShockOfHair
                    I don't see the big deal.
                    Hannebery got promoted. Rohan got promoted - neither is a list-clogger.
                    Richards got promoted after Bolton was injured - as you'd expect.
                    Playfair's been given the nod because our lead ruck has played ten games of footy in his entire life. Currie didn't look like a league player in the pre-season and still doesn't.
                    Agree. ORB's analysis is useful, but being among the best in the ressies is not necessarily an indicator of readiness to play senior footy. A ruck division of Pyke and Currie would have been courageous; I am glad they've gone with White, who performed well as 2nd ruck in the first half of last season. I am surprised by Playfair - either they are committed to playing 3 tall forwards this year, or want insurance in case Goodes is required in the midfield (where he should have been released last week).

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                    • Big Al
                      Veterans List
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 7007

                      #11
                      Re: Selection Policy

                      I would tend to trust the coaches judgements on selection for the simple reason that they may know more about whether a certain player is ready for a senior game or not. They not only see the game performances but they also see how the player is training, attitude and whether the player is carrying any injuries. Performances in the reserves can't just be the only criteria for senior selection. As as been stated many times the Canberra comp is light years away from AFL standard.
                      ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

                      Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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                      • Bas
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 4457

                        #12
                        We know much more than the coaches. I just don't understand why they don't listen to us.
                        In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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                        • giant
                          Veterans List
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 4731

                          #13
                          The two selections that appear puzzling are Playfair in lieu of Currie and Barlow instead of MOD (indefensible). Otherwise, it's not too hard to follow the logic.

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                          • ScottH
                            It's Goodes to cheer!!
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 23665

                            #14
                            Originally posted by giant
                            The two selections that appear puzzling are Playfair in lieu of Currie and Barlow instead of MOD (indefensible). Otherwise, it's not too hard to follow the logic.
                            The only way of looking at that is bigger bodies.

                            MOD in his few games late last year was starting to look really good.
                            Currie I can't comment on, be a shame to lose him after all the years invested in him so far.

                            Interesting thoughts ORB. I hope your crystal ball is not so accurate, though.

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                            • lwjoyner
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 972

                              #15
                              Playfair couldnt play at Geelong and didnt set world on fire with us. You have to try Currie or else we will loose him and probably Patty V if they both dont get a game soon. I can see the Pies jumping in. Playfair is not in our future so why select him. Currrie can play forward if they want to ruck jesse.

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