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  • ugg
    Can you feel it?
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    • Jan 2003
    • 15978

    #16
    Originally posted by giant
    The two selections that appear puzzling are Playfair in lieu of Currie
    It's not that puzzling if you think it through - the coaches are going with the team they think has the best chance of winning this game. Playfair has more experience and probably more strength than Currie. Sure, it would be nice for Currie to get a few games under his belt for his development but I think you're being very short-sighted if you think playing Currie over Playfair will help us win this game.
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    • Jewels
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      • Oct 2006
      • 3258

      #17
      Originally posted by Big Al
      I would tend to trust the coaches judgements on selection for the simple reason that they may know more about whether a certain player is ready for a senior game or not. They not only see the game performances but they also see how the player is training, attitude and whether the player is carrying any injuries. Performances in the reserves can't just be the only criteria for senior selection. As as been stated many times the Canberra comp is light years away from AFL standard.
      Originally posted by ugg
      It's not that puzzling if you think it through - the coaches are going with the team they think has the best chance of winning this game. Playfair has more experience and probably more strength than Currie. Sure, it would be nice for Currie to get a few games under his belt for his development but I think you're being very short-sighted if you think playing Currie over Playfair will help us win this game.
      Now, now, now you two, RWO is not the place for logic and reason!

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      • Big Al
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        • Feb 2005
        • 7007

        #18
        Originally posted by Jewels
        Now, now, now you two, RWO is not the place for logic and reason!
        Sorry Jewels, it was momentary lapse. I won't let it happen again.
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        • Bloody Hell
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2006
          • 3085

          #19
          Having rewatched the Round 1 NAB Cup game vs Carlton I have to withdraw any comments made regarding Currie.

          Easily out muscled in all ruck contests & contested marking situations, and lacks the speed to burn defenders on the lead. Probably at least one, possibly two preseasons away from being effective as a ruckman at the higher level - haven't seen enough to comment on his KP credentials.
          The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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          • Plugger46
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2003
            • 3674

            #20
            Originally posted by Bas
            We know much more than the coaches. I just don't understand why they don't listen to us.
            So people can't have an opinion? May as well shut the forum down now then.
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            • Big Al
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              • Feb 2005
              • 7007

              #21
              Originally posted by Plugger46
              So people can't have an opinion? May as well shut the forum down now then.
              Yep and Bas is stating his. Wonderful how it works isn't it.
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              • Donners
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                • Jan 2003
                • 1061

                #22
                Originally posted by Old Royboy
                1. The club prefers to play ?has beens?, ?never have beens and never will bes? or list cloggers ? all of whom can?t even make the best players list in the ressies, against those actually showing some from.
                Or, that it is recognised that there is a difference in style and tempo at the higher level, and so those with more experience and more mature bodies are preferred.

                2. Thus, the next player to be promoted will be Bevan!!!!
                I most certainly hope not.


                6. The Dill will be a star.
                Wouldn't bet on that based on a few reserves performances. Bennett was outstanding in the VFL, certainly at a higher level than Canberra and with some AFL games behind him, but never went anywhere at the higher level.


                Yes, I do recognise you were probably being a bit facetious...

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                • smasher
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 627

                  #23
                  From what I have seen and heard of Currie,he has a fair way to go yet but if he perserveres he will get there.It is not uncommon for the big blokes to take a while to come on.

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                  • Robbo
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                    • May 2007
                    • 2946

                    #24
                    Good OP. Well done.

                    It's laughable how Currie can't get a game when the two ruckmen at the top of the pecking order aren't playing. He has been with us for 4 years now, at least give him a chance for christ's sake.

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                    • Hartijon
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                      • May 2008
                      • 1536

                      #25
                      I have been on about selection policy for a long time and selecting on form alone has a lot going for it. I don't follow the reserves but they got flogged and the boys were lethargic after a couple of promotions were not based on form. I can understand why and morale of the reserves is a good reason to pick on form.It keeps them keen interested and training their butts off because they know if they play well they are in!!! Doesn't matter what their name is. For elite players (eg Goodes,Kirk etc) ,they don't even have to play in the reserves if coming back from injury but they have EARNED that status. Seeing them go in does not effect morale.

                      The other consideration is "match ups" and an in form small player may not what we need that particular week,hence a bigger but not in as good a form player goes up.I can live with that! The selection of Playfair baffles me. He has been unsuccessful at both Geelong and the Swans (albeit with injuries),his form is not hot and we seem to have enough tall timber and need PACE to beat or even match the Doggies. Teddy has been completely predictable and played to his form.Obviously the selectors think his standard of play is better than any other B graders. I don't.

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                      • Big Al
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                        • Feb 2005
                        • 7007

                        #26
                        Re: Selection Policy

                        Originally posted by Robbo
                        Good OP. Well done.

                        It's laughable how Currie can't get a game when the two ruckmen at the top of the pecking order aren't playing. He has been with us for 4 years now, at least give him a chance for christ's sake.
                        It's hard for supporters outside the club to make that call because we are not privy to all the information. We can only go on what we see in the Reserves. We don't see what goes on behind the scenes. My personal opinion is that Currie be selected but I have to believe that people with 100's of games of AFL experience behind them know better than me if a player is ready or not.
                        Last edited by Big Al; 14 May 2010, 10:45 PM.
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                        • stellation
                          scott names the planets
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 9723

                          #27
                          Davo.
                          I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                          We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                          • Jewels
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                            • Oct 2006
                            • 3258

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Hartijon
                            I have been on about selection policy for a long time and selecting on form alone has a lot going for it. I don't follow the reserves but they got flogged and the boys were lethargic after a couple of promotions were not based on form. I can understand why and morale of the reserves is a good reason to pick on form.It keeps them keen interested and training their butts off because they know if they play well they are in!!! Doesn't matter what their name is. For elite players (eg Goodes,Kirk etc) ,they don't even have to play in the reserves if coming back from injury but they have EARNED that status. Seeing them go in does not effect morale.

                            The other consideration is "match ups" and an in form small player may not what we need that particular week,hence a bigger but not in as good a form player goes up.I can live with that! The selection of Playfair baffles me. He has been unsuccessful at both Geelong and the Swans (albeit with injuries),his form is not hot and we seem to have enough tall timber and need PACE to beat or even match the Doggies. Teddy has been completely predictable and played to his form.Obviously the selectors think his standard of play is better than any other B graders. I don't.
                            Perhaps the reserves got flogged because of the amount of players that needed to be promoted to the senior team to cover for injuries and the ressies team was left understrength.
                            Mmmm, fascinating theory isn't it?

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                            • Damien
                              Living in 2005
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 3713

                              #29
                              I'll trust the selection panel, but if I was Currie, I'd put my head down work my butt off, learn as much as possible and get my manager onto the Gold Coast recruiting staff ASAP.

                              I realise young Rucks often take longer to develop and he has had injury issues, but if you can't get a guernsey in your fourth year when Ruck1 and Ruck2 are out, you really do need to explore your options.

                              I guess he only has to look as far as Mumford for inspiration.

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                              • Lucky Knickers
                                Fandom of Fabulousness
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 4220

                                #30
                                Originally posted by stellation
                                Davo.
                                Kicked 4 on the weekend!

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