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  • Reggi
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2003
    • 2718

    Veszpremi rapt to get his chance



    I though it was a really good game he played on Saturday. John Longmire seems to be of the view his work rate is still not enough though.

    Hope he stays in the team
    You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler
  • dimelb
    pr. dim-melb; m not f
    • Jun 2003
    • 6889

    #2
    Longmire said Veszpremi had played a number of different roles in reserves - forward, defence and midfield - to make him more versatile.

    ?We are trying to give him more education in those roles and what they require and he has been improving in our reserves. So on Saturday, when Rhyce couldn?t play, we needed a player who was flexible enough to play forward and back for us and we thought Patty was the one.??
    This sounds right - not about curbing his flair, more about expanding his repertoire.
    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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    • RogueSwan
      McVeigh for Brownlow
      • Apr 2003
      • 4602

      #3
      Good to hear, they know he has the talent, now just needs the fitness.
      "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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      • Hartijon
        On the Rookie List
        • May 2008
        • 1536

        #4
        Why Vespa? Why is he the human guinea pig at the Swans to be developed to play Forward/Back, /Midfield and held in the reserves until he can? I don't buy it. It reeks of one of those excuses coaches make to justify their actions in not promoting a player.

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        • aardvark
          Veterans List
          • Mar 2010
          • 5685

          #5
          Originally posted by Hartijon
          Why Vespa? Why is he the human guinea pig at the Swans to be developed to play Forward/Back, /Midfield and held in the reserves until he can? I don't buy it. It reeks of one of those excuses coaches make to justify their actions in not promoting a player.
          Jack of all trades and master of none. We will end up with a team of utility players who don't do anything particularly well except be fit.

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          • Nich
            Senior Player
            • May 2010
            • 1291

            #6
            Originally posted by Hartijon
            Why Vespa? Why is he the human guinea pig at the Swans to be developed to play Forward/Back, /Midfield and held in the reserves until he can? I don't buy it. It reeks of one of those excuses coaches make to justify their actions in not promoting a player.
            Because he doesn't have the fitness at the moment to hold down a solid senior spot. He comes in bursts and flashes, with quality. He's a great utility player so if he can be shoved around the park, gaining fitness and learning new skills then it can only make him a fitter, more complete player. He is only 20, let's not forget.
            Last edited by Nich; 16 June 2010, 11:33 AM.

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            • CJK
              Human
              • Apr 2006
              • 2170

              #7
              Originally posted by Hartijon
              Why Vespa? Why is he the human guinea pig at the Swans to be developed to play Forward/Back, /Midfield and held in the reserves until he can? I don't buy it. It reeks of one of those excuses coaches make to justify their actions in not promoting a player.
              Hope you have your tin foil hat on.

              They're reading your thoughts otherwise.
              -

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              • Jewels
                On the Rookie List
                • Oct 2006
                • 3258

                #8
                Originally posted by Hartijon
                Why Vespa? Why is he the human guinea pig at the Swans to be developed to play Forward/Back, /Midfield and held in the reserves until he can? I don't buy it. It reeks of one of those excuses coaches make to justify their actions in not promoting a player.
                Maybe it's because they think he has the ability and versitility to play all over the park and just needs to build the fitness base and get the experience.
                Do you really think they would hold a player back just for the hell of it, when we are battling to get into the finals?

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                • ernie koala
                  Senior Player
                  • May 2007
                  • 3251

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Reggi
                  http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/n...3/default.aspx

                  I though it was a really good game he played on Saturday. John Longmire seems to be of the view his work rate is still not enough though.

                  Hope he stays in the team
                  Sounds very much like he'll be back to Canberra for a while, unless we have lots of injuries in the meantime...Disappointing if this is the case.
                  I'd certainly like to see him in ahead of Bevan.
                  Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                  • swansrule100
                    The quarterback
                    • May 2004
                    • 4538

                    #10
                    vespa is in the same boat as a few guys from saturday night who might struggle to hold their spots when the injury list drops.

                    I would love vespa to stay, but would put him out if it means someone like rohan stays in
                    Theres not much left to say

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                    • wearebloods
                      Footy!
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 244

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Hartijon
                      Why Vespa? Why is he the human guinea pig at the Swans to be developed to play Forward/Back, /Midfield and held in the reserves until he can? I don't buy it. It reeks of one of those excuses coaches make to justify their actions in not promoting a player.
                      Ignore the politics & spin and read between the lines Hartijon.

                      Ask yourself -> Why would the coaching staff deem it worthwhile to give Vesz a taste of what's it like to play defence?

                      I can guarantee it's not for @@@@s & giggles, it has purpose.
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                      • liz
                        Veteran
                        Site Admin
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 16778

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Hartijon
                        Why Vespa? Why is he the human guinea pig at the Swans to be developed to play Forward/Back, /Midfield and held in the reserves until he can? I don't buy it. It reeks of one of those excuses coaches make to justify their actions in not promoting a player.
                        You make it sound like he's been singled out for special (unfair) treatment. Anyone who has watched the reserves consistently over the past few years will know that many players are thrown all over the ground as they are developed. Sometimes the coaches will not know where a player's best position will be. In other cases they may have a good idea but just want to educate the players on how structures work in different parts of the ground.

                        Grundy, Vogels and White all spent time rotating back and forward (and Jesse into the ruck too). Currie has been used forward, ruck and a little back. Pyke ruck and back. Johnston forward and back. Thornton back, middle and forward. Laidlaw half-back, middle, forward. The list goes on and on and on and on...

                        Not only will the experience make most players better all around players, it increases their chances of getting a senior spot when one becomes available if they are versatile.

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                        • i'm-uninformed2
                          Reefer Madness
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 4653

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nich
                          He is only 20, let's not forget.
                          Exactly. Let's not fret.
                          'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                          • Primmy
                            Proud Tragic Swan
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 5970

                            #14
                            It also gives everyone the chance to work out where a bloke plays his best game, the player works out where he is happiest, he also learns how other players have to play their various positions, helps with reading the play, how fast you have to move the ball to get anywhere, etc etc etc. Vesp also has to get his stamina up to speed, because it started out as plain awful. Much better, but has a way to go. Can sure play the game, no issue there, but not much use if you can't finish running.

                            Not all players stay utility. They learn their craft and more often than not settle. I seem to remember Leo Barry kicking two goals in three minutes as a forward yonks ago (the day Stuart Diver was released at Thredbo), and he made a better backman.
                            If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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                            • aardvark
                              Veterans List
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 5685

                              #15
                              I don't care who they drop so long as they give him a few more games. Like that annoying hair colour ad "Its Time he'd be a nice catch for someone"

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