Veszpremi rapt to get his chance

[Lucky Knickers]

I don't care who they drop so long as they give him a few more games. Like that annoying hair colour ad "Its Time he'd be a nice catch for someone"

I might just have to shoot you for that! That ad is the PITS
I'll have to admit to feeling pretty gloomy when I initially read that article. Then I cheered up. He is a very talented player and if he can get his aerobic capacity up to scratch will become a very dangerous weapon for us in the years to come. I think Liz described his passing as "audacious" in the game thread - a very apt adjective. Have we had a player with similar skill and cajones before?

[Hartijon]

Ignore the politics & spin and read between the lines Hartijon.

Ask yourself -> Why would the coaching staff deem it worthwhile to give Vesz a taste of what's it like to play defence?

I can guarantee it's not for @@@@s & giggles, it has purpose.

Well we have a long array of defenders and with Bolton to eventually come back in it would be hard for him to get into the team as a defensive player. As I think he is a natural forward,somewhat flamboyant ,maybe its to teach him discipline and to follow the COACHES PLAN (similar in status to Holy Grail).Also if they put him FF or Fpocket and watched him kick 4 goals it could call their judgement about him into question .Hard to prove you are sharp around the forward line from the 1/2 back flank.

[Go Swannies]

Well we have a long array of defenders and with Bolton to eventually come back in it would be hard for him to get into the team as a defensive player. As I think he is a natural forward,somewhat flamboyant ,maybe its to teach him discipline and to follow the COACHES PLAN (similar in status to Holy Grail).Also if they put him FF or Fpocket and watched him kick 4 goals it could call their judgement about him into question .Hard to prove you are sharp around the forward line from the 1/2 back flank.

Because there's no way the coaching staff and the Swans selectors would want a player who went forward and kicked 4 goals? Here's a conspiracy theory to dwell on.

On your opening point, I think we'll be lucky to see B2 play one more game as a Swan just to get his 200 games up. I hear his body is not coming together well and noone is thinking about 2011 as an option.

[Hartijon]

Because there's no way the coaching staff and the Swans selectors would want a player who went forward and kicked 4 goals? Here's a conspiracy theory to dwell on.

On your opening point, I think we'll be lucky to see B2 play one more game as a Swan just to get his 200 games up. I hear his body is not coming together well and noone is thinking about 2011 as an option.

Real Shame to hear about B2. He is one universally admired player by all teams,
Regarding Vez,I was just speculating to try and answer the question given to me and I was being flippant. My deep respect for coaches does not seem to come through!

The truth is I think that I would not play him in the backlines,I would play him in the forwards and I would be delighted when he kicked a bag. Rather than train him as a defender,I would concentrate his training on being an attacker,I would have him doing banana kicks,rolling the ball through Milne style,running off a defender rather than being a defender. Wierd huh,I would coach a natural forward to be a forward!! Now there's something different!

[aardvark]

Real Shame to hear about B2. He is one universally admired player by all teams,
Regarding Vez,I was just speculating to try and answer the question given to me and I was being flippant. My deep respect for coaches does not seem to come through!

The truth is I think that I would not play him in the backlines,I would play him in the forwards and I would be delighted when he kicked a bag. Rather than train him as a defender,I would concentrate his training on being an attacker,I would have him doing banana kicks,rolling the ball through Milne style,running off a defender rather than being a defender. Wierd huh,I would coach a natural forward to be a forward!! Now there's something different!

Yep, at the moment we have 2 rucks, 4 KP players and 16 midfielders who play a bit here and there. AND 3 of our kp players also ruck or play in the midfield. Its no wonder sometimes we look dazed and confused. Whats wrong with specialist position players?

[BSA5]

Why Vespa? Why is he the human guinea pig at the Swans to be developed to play Forward/Back, /Midfield and held in the reserves until he can? I don't buy it. It reeks of one of those excuses coaches make to justify their actions in not promoting a player.

Yeah, trying players in other positions is just lunacy. I mean, what about that Ryan O'Keefe bloke, eh? He was a defender when we drafted him, then we went and played him forward, persisted with him for years, that failed, and now we're trying him in the midfield! Lunacy. Or that flashy bloke Goodes, rubbish player, should just find a position and stick to it. Playing Micky O forward after he started out in the midfield and defence was a terrible option, wrecked his career. And don't get me started on Heath bloody Grundy! Why can't they just leave him in the forwardline FFS, that's what we drafted him for!

Other clubs do it to. Brendan Goddard, where the @@@@ does he play again? I don't think he even knows, looks totally lost out there, gets kicks all over the ground (worst thing is it looks like we're doing the same thing to Rohan!). And that Matthew Pavlich needs to just stick to the goalsquare and let the midfield do its job, honestly, it's as if he thinks he's superman. Rubbish.

And finally, what about Gary Ablett Jnr? He's a classy small-medium lead up forward, just like Vespa is, and that's where he should stay. This midfield experiment is ridiculous. Absolute guinea pig, they keep persisting with him in there, the poor guy must be so frustrated. He even gets chucked back down there at times, just to confuse him even more. When will the coaches wake up to themselves?

[hammo]

There's nothing in Horse's comments that makes me think Vesz will retain his place.

[Hartijon]

Obviously grooming players to new roles has worked well with a number of stars. The ones it hasn't worked with we have forgotten. I think there would be quite a few of those where changing them has been unsuccessful as well. The needs of the team for the future should be paramount in any decision as well as the profile of the player and their willingness to change. I would have thought developing specialist forwards would be a good idea for the Swans.We haven't won a premiership since we lost specialist forwards and we would never have won one without a specialist forward. (eg one that can explode and kick 4 difficult goals in a quarter). I seem to remember the coaches then used this specialist forward as a 1/2 back flanker to teach him something that I have forgotten but obviously was useful for him.

[aardvark]

Yeah, trying players in other positions is just lunacy. I mean, what about that Ryan O'Keefe bloke, eh? He was a defender when we drafted him, then we went and played him forward, persisted with him for years, that failed, and now we're trying him in the midfield! Lunacy. Or that flashy bloke Goodes, rubbish player, should just find a position and stick to it. Playing Micky O forward after he started out in the midfield and defence was a terrible option, wrecked his career. And don't get me started on Heath bloody Grundy! Why can't they just leave him in the forwardline FFS, that's what we drafted him for!

Other clubs do it to. Brendan Goddard, where the @@@@ does he play again? I don't think he even knows, looks totally lost out there, gets kicks all over the ground (worst thing is it looks like we're doing the same thing to Rohan!). And that Matthew Pavlich needs to just stick to the goalsquare and let the midfield do its job, honestly, it's as if he thinks he's superman. Rubbish.

And finally, what about Gary Ablett Jnr? He's a classy small-medium lead up forward, just like Vespa is, and that's where he should stay. This midfield experiment is ridiculous. Absolute guinea pig, they keep persisting with him in there, the poor guy must be so frustrated. He even gets chucked back down there at times, just to confuse him even more. When will the coaches wake up to themselves?

Superstars can play anywhere....thats why they are superstars.

[707]

Whilst small forwards can find themselves starved of opportunities in some games, I'd still like to see us give Vespa a run for a few games as a lead up forward to see if he can lock in a spot. I just love his celebration of a goal.

I also hope TDL can make the grade, could be a very exciting player.

[Dalai Lama]

The Morroccan Vez can be the "Atalloah of Goaler" if he kicks a few bags of 6-10 goals? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_SxHRFN5zD8...umbsup.php.jpg