Swans selection policy

[CJK]

Dump EVERY player over 25

Replace with EVERY player that has EVER kicked a goal in the ressies (regardless of position)

AND

Sack all the coaches for good measure.

That's the kind of conservative rubbish you get on the forum.

WHEN WILL YOU ALL WAKE UP!!!1!!!!!!11!1!eleven!!!1!

[sWAns63]

For mine our selection is ultra conservative and has been that way since 2006. And far more conservative than most other non contenders.
I think most agree, as was the case in 07, 08 and 09, we are no chance of a flag this year, and little chance of making any impact in the finals (if we make them at all).
That's 4 ordinary seasons in a row, and the same conservative approach still being applied.
Yes they 've played a few youngsters this year in Jetta and Rohan. But still young players like O'Dwyer, Vespemi, TDL, and others, who have been performing well in the 2's, get little or no chance at senior level. Where as players like Playfair, Richards, Bevan get extensive runs in the 1's, regardless of their form.
IMO it's time for a more adventurous approach.
Others thoughts?

Currie, Heath, O'Dwyer, Ves, Johnston, TDL is it 4 games between them

[Nico]

Our other midfielders are too busy watching their own opponents to provide blocking for him. He gets very little help. Teams playing the Swans know they only have to shut down McVeigh because no one else is going for the ball.

Hooray, someone else noticed. Been going on for years.

[RogueSwan]

Hooray, someone else noticed. Been going on for years.

Shepherding seems to be one skill we really lack which is surprising given Roosy supposed knowledge of basketball. Pick 'n' roll anyone?

[Nico]

Shepherding seems to be one skill we really lack which is surprising given Roosy supposed knowledge of basketball. Pick 'n' roll anyone?

One skill we lack is going for the ball at centre bounces and the blokes blocking and holding do it poorly.

[Cheer Squad]

Very good chance we will see teddy and henry back this week

Well, we really must be in trouble!

[ernie koala]

Now, now, now Ugg, this is not the thread for rational thought.
This thread is the thread that ALWAYS follows a loss and always follows the same trajectory.
Dump EVERY player over 25
Replace with EVERY player that has EVER kicked a goal in the ressies (regardless of position)

AND

Sack all the coaches for good measure.

Yeah your right, another predictable loss to the Wobbles, in the midst of yet another up and down season of.. beating the also rans and losing to the good sides... gets me questioning the Swans selection strategy.. How dare me!..Maybe I should just sit back, accept the mediocrity, and dwell on my ownership of rational thought.

[Industrial Fan]

Seems a strange year for this type of thread when there have been so many youngsters given a run. There really isnt the older brigade holding unwarranted spots anymore - if you turn over the whole list we'll end up as Richmond!

Need a few senior heads in the team.

[ugg]

Number of players used 2010 (A = AFL debut, C = club debut)

Cb .Pl .A .C
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Ad .35 .6 .1
Br .33 .1 .5
Ca .31 .2 .3
Co .32 .- .2
Es .33 .3 .1
Fr .32 .5 .-
Ge .33 .5 .-
Ha .33 .3 .4
Me .35 .5 .1
NM .33 .3 .-
PA .36 .6 .4
Ri .37 .8 .1
St .31 .2 .2
Sy .33 .3 .5
WC .35 .6 .1
WB .29 .2 .1
------------
. .531 60 31

We are very much middle of the pack, and certainly less conservative than in previous years.

[Mike_B]

We are very much middle of the pack, and certainly less conservative than in previous years.

Allow me to play Devil's Advocate, but how much of that is because of retirements etc occurring last year? The corollary being - how many of those new faces were because without them we wouldn't have 22 on the field/bench?

IMHO, at the start of the year we were heading in the right direction with the new faces, but unfortunately when there were a few spots open over the past few weeks, we went with the 'better the devil you know' approach, rather than doing what some other clubs have achieved very successfully in the past, whereby they knew it was a one or two game run, and bring in a kid for that, knowing they will drop back to the 2s afterwards. Rather, we've seen more of the guys with known limitations (eg Bevan/Playfair) over guys who are yet to to be seen. Yes I know it's that fine line between leaving the team with too little experience, but considering the coaching staff openly admit in press conferences that we can't match it with the top teams, what do we have to lose? Let's try and get these kids exposed to a bit of senior footy so they know what it takes when they start a season in the best 22 on paper.

[ugg]

It all depends on what your outlook is. If you believe we should be blooding kids for the future at the expense of winning some games, then I can understand why you would be upset that we're plumping for Bevan/Playfair over O'Dwyer/Johnston (for example). However, if the main goal is to be winning games now, then selecting these guys with experience but limited scope for improvement is the right way to go. Given it it's Roos's last season, and he's always emphasised the need for the Swans to be relatively successful on the field to stay healthy off it, it's not too hard to guess what his point of view is.

I've already made the point that we had 8 players under 23 in the Collingwood match. IMHO, this is about the right balance to have in the team. As we've already seen in the cases of White and Jetta, these young players can have a hard time making consistent and telling contributions on game day.

[RogueSwan]

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Ge .33 .5 .-
St .31 .2 .2
Co .32 .- .2
Fr .32 .5 .-
WB .29 .2 .1
Ca .31 .2 .3
Sy .33 .3 .5
Ha .33 .3 .4
NM .33 .3 .-
Es .33 .3 .1
Br .33 .1 .5
PA .36 .6 .4
Me .35 .5 .1
Ad .35 .6 .1
WC .35 .6 .1
Ri .37 .8 .1
------------

Doesn't show much in ladder order except the obvious - that the bottom teams blood more players.
Geelong and the Dockers are interesting though.5 new players each and still right up the top.

[Mike_B]

It all depends on what your outlook is.

See my signature

[sWAns63]

Allow me to play Devil's Advocate, but how much of that is because of retirements etc occurring last year? The corollary being - how many of those new faces were because without them we wouldn't have 22 on the field/bench?

IMHO, at the start of the year we were heading in the right direction with the new faces, but unfortunately when there were a few spots open over the past few weeks, we went with the 'better the devil you know' approach, rather than doing what some other clubs have achieved very successfully in the past, whereby they knew it was a one or two game run, and bring in a kid for that, knowing they will drop back to the 2s afterwards. Rather, we've seen more of the guys with known limitations (eg Bevan/Playfair) over guys who are yet to to be seen. Yes I know it's that fine line between leaving the team with too little experience, but considering the coaching staff openly admit in press conferences that we can't match it with the top teams, what do we have to lose? Let's try and get these kids exposed to a bit of senior footy so they know what it takes when they start a season in the best 22 on paper.

Well said, exactly how I feel

[giant]

Number of players used 2010 (A = AFL debut, C = club debut)

Cb .Pl .A .C
------------
------------
. .531 60 31

We are very much middle of the pack, and certainly less conservative than in previous years.

Good stats Ugg - can i ask a source?