Rhyce Shaw is a liability!

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  • troyjones2525
    Swans Fanatic!
    • Mar 2008
    • 2908

    Rhyce Shaw is a liability!

    His disposal his a disgrace. Collingwood knew this, that's why they let him go!
    Last edited by troyjones2525; 5 July 2010, 07:25 AM.
  • ScottH
    It's Goodes to cheer!!
    • Sep 2003
    • 23665

    #2
    Originally posted by troyjones2525
    His disposal his a disgrace. Collingwood knew this, that's why they let him go!
    Pretty much. The only upside is his run and carry.
    He should never be allowed to take kick ins.

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    • goswannie14
      Leadership Group
      • Sep 2005
      • 11166

      #3
      His work across the halfback line was very good yesterday, I can't agree with the premise of the OP>
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      • Melbournehammer
        Senior Player
        • May 2007
        • 1815

        #4
        Originally posted by ScottH
        Pretty much. The only upside is his run and carry.
        He should never be allowed to take kick ins.
        On the other hand we can look at our kick ins v collingwood last week where malceski (and mattner I think) went short contrary to instructions and missed targets. Thereafter we went long to the wing. And not much improved there. I guess the point being that we don't really have any accurate kicks from there - and Tadgh doesn't appear to want it any more either. And Shaw does what we got him for better than anyone else back there - he gets it he runs and kicks long - it just so happens that we don't have forwards who play in front or know how to present

        i think we have to face the facts that we have almost no-one who can take a contested mark. At the game yesterday seeing goodes playing at ff - ie two kicks in from the kick ins (of which there were very few due to the fact that richmond kepp kicking goals from marks taken in the corridor less than 20 metres out) left me with little hope that we had any chance of getting the ball from a kick in. With grundy unwilling to leave riewoldt it was even more obvious
        Last edited by Melbournehammer; 5 July 2010, 08:05 AM. Reason: added sentence

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        • Captain
          Captain of the Side
          • Feb 2004
          • 3602

          #5
          I thought Shaw was quite good.

          If his disposal is so bad, why does he score well in supercoach points?

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          • CJK
            Human
            • Apr 2006
            • 2170

            #6
            My beef with Shaw is that he's as easy to read and brainless as a News Ltd publication.

            He'll run to the right a bit and then hit it long to the wing. Oh, and on occasion he'll miss a sitter from in front of the sticks.
            -

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            • swansrule100
              The quarterback
              • May 2004
              • 4538

              #7
              i dont blame shaw for the kick ins it seems not matter who does it we have a team directive to go long and wide to a contest 99% of the time, feel free to chuck in a fancy tap on ur boot first.

              I think he might provide a bit through the middle, he takes the game on unlike a lot of others. Plenty of people worse than him 2 of them are captaining the side
              Theres not much left to say

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              • Bloody Hell
                Senior Player
                • Oct 2006
                • 3085

                #8
                Serviceable, but I don't think he's in the best 22.
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                • Go Swannies
                  Veterans List
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 5697

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bloody Hell
                  Serviceable, but I don't think he's in the best 22.
                  I think there's only about six players in our best 22. Eight if we can get the two Stewies back on the field in the right clothing.

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                  • Legs Akimbo
                    Grand Poobah
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 2809

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Captain
                    I thought Shaw was quite good.

                    If his disposal is so bad, why does he score well in supercoach points?
                    Because he gets a fair bit of it and when not under pressure disposes well. His deficiencies are not the sort that appear on a stat sheet. A crucial blunder at a critical time, constantly kicking wide and running wide. It looks spectacular when he takes off and runs, however, too often he is running wide which gives the opposition time to push back and man up. That is why often his runs end up with rebound goals.
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                    • troyjones2525
                      Swans Fanatic!
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 2908

                      #11
                      Originally posted by goswannie14
                      His work across the halfback line was very good yesterday, I can't agree with the premise of the OP>
                      He may look flashy and give us some run and carry at times but surely everyone agrees that we could put a vespremi, rohan or merideth in the role he plays and they would match his speed with also some decent disposal by foot which is what really kills us! plus they they are all 8 to 10 years younger too!

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                      • Go Swannies
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                        • Sep 2003
                        • 5697

                        #12
                        Originally posted by troyjones2525
                        He may look flashy and give us some run and carry at times but surely everyone agrees that we could put a vespremi, rohan or merideth in the role he plays and they would match his speed with also some decent disposal by foot which is what really kills us! plus they they are all 8 to 10 years younger too!
                        So the Swans coaches were wrong to have him second in the B&F or was 2009 his one good year between being a Collingwood dud and a Swans dud?

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                        • Robbo
                          On the Rookie List
                          • May 2007
                          • 2946

                          #13
                          Either Shaw or Kennelly needs to go. We need to start playing the kids.

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                          • DST
                            The voice of reason!
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 2705

                            #14
                            Blokes like Shaw who are prepared to back themselves with run and carry will always turn the ball over.

                            I would much prefer to see Shaw take on the opposition and try turn the course of the game then sit back, play the percentages and see us go down like we did on Sunday when the opposition get a run on.

                            We don't have alot of line breakers and the ones we do have should be given the opportunity to do so without having to worry about turning the ball over.

                            DST
                            "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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                            • Legs Akimbo
                              Grand Poobah
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 2809

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Robbo
                              Either Shaw or Kennelly needs to go. We need to start playing the kids.
                              Kennelly disposes better and tends to run in straight lines. He also is a better man on man defender. A superior player. And he's not a Shaw.
                              He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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