Seaby vs Pyke

[caj23]

am i the only one who thinks pyke cant play? oh well, id drop him he has improved but not hard when you start out as nothing to improve somewhat. But around the ground he cant play much at all?

seaby was ahead of mumford before injury

No your not, his around the ground work is almost non-existent. He gets leeway for showing so much development after so little time in the game.

Agreed that at this point in time Seaby is still our No 1

[Go Swannies]

am i the only one who thinks pyke cant play? oh well, id drop him he has improved but not hard when you start out as nothing to improve somewhat. But around the ground he cant play much at all?

seaby was ahead of mumford before injury

So I guess you don't think any other club would be interested in Pyke at the end of this year?

And you'd not be unhappy if he left anyway?

Agree Seaby then was ahead of Mummy then. But Mummy has improved - is Seaby still better?

[hammo]

I am probably guilty of under-rating Pyke as much as many on RWO are guilty of over-rating him.

He's probably somewhere in between but there's no way he's better than Seaby.

I still don't think he's anything other than cover for our first choice ruckmen and my main concern is that he had held up the development of Currie.

[laughingnome]

I feel sorry for Seaby. The guy left West Coast because he couldn't crack a game, plays a couple of blinders and then snaps an ankle. In his absence everyone is smitten about the underdog Canadian (including me) who continues to make great strides in the game to the point that Seaby might struggle to get a game in the ruck at his new home.

Given it was a serious injury I think it pragmatic to be careful returning Seaby to the 22 this year, especially if there is no great reward (read: top 4) to be had. If Seaby returns to his stellar form at the start of the year it's no question he gets picked before Pyke, but given that CBolts and Playfair are aging and injured respectively, Pyke may find himself in the side anyway.

[Melbourne_Blood]

Was Seaby generally played as a ruck at West Coast, or was he more of forward/Ruck? If they do want to bring him back this year, perhaps they could bring him into our horror show of a forward line and see how he goes there. Particluarly if Bradshaw is finished for the year

[chuckie]

Pyke has improved a fair bit but he would still be in the worst dozen players in the league and if you listen to most Melbourne commentators he would be the worst. I doubt whether a VFL team would even look at picking him up if he was delisted.

[UglyDuckling]

Seaby is a ruckman he does not have the pace or agility to play as a permanent forward. In days where many teams are playing 1 ruckman it would be ludicrous to play 3.

Seaby is in front of pyke by a country mile. When he comes back play mummy 70% of the game in the ruck and Seaby 30% ruck and 30% forward. Leaving pyke as the backup

[Go Swannies]

Pyke has improved a fair bit but he would still be in the worst dozen players in the league and if you listen to most Melbourne commentators he would be the worst. I doubt whether a VFL team would even look at picking him up if he was delisted.

That doesn't make Pyke special. Listening to Melbourne commentators I think they'd pick any 12 Swans players as the worst 12 in the comp. Except for Goodes who has won some awards in Melbourne so he's "the champ".

[wearebloods]

. In days where many teams are playing 1 ruckman it would be ludicrous to play 3.

If all your friends decided to jump off the Sydney Harbour Bridge, would you do it? Are you a sheep?

Ask a 1930's coach what he thinks of modern day paddocks, zones, flooding, waves & clusters etc etc.

If you don't evolve, you're pretty much screwed.

In 2010, you work within the system with the resources on hand and you need to innovate & do the unexpected to give you an edge.

As crazy as it sounds (yes I admit to drinking far too much coffee today), but if Horse can find a way to deploy 3-4 mobile/versatile rucks to cover our deficiencies in KPPs (I'm sorry, how many I50 contested marks do we have for the year?) & pace so we can move the ball like lightning I50 then I say go for gold

[Ratna]

Seaby and Mumford deserve to be 1-2, however, I think Pyke is well worth persevering with. The improvement has shown no signs of slowing yet and he is getting better around the ground with every game. Like the idea of Seaby resting up forward sometimes. I remember a few West Coast games when he P...ed me off with quality stints in the forward line that got them quick goals.

[swansrule100]

So I guess you don't think any other club would be interested in Pyke at the end of this year?

And you'd not be unhappy if he left anyway?

Agree Seaby then was ahead of Mummy then. But Mummy has improved - is Seaby still better?

dunno depends how seaby goes

i honestly dont think any other club would ever take pyke

[dimelb]

dunno depends how seaby goes

i honestly dont think any other club would ever take pyke

At the end of another season? Whyever not?

[Q...]

Seaby will come back in place of Pyke as a ruckman. Pyke will stay in the team. He'll pinch hit in the back, up forward and in the ruck. Pyke isn't going anywhere.

[Damien]

Seaby by a country mile (I had to look twice at this thread to be honest, I thought it was taking the piss), although the future is looking a hell of a lot brighter for Pyke and his AFL career.

Still don't think his awareness is good enough to be in a full strength Swans team aiming for the finals (although this has improved greatly), but if we get knocked about in the next few weeks and finals hopes become a distant memory, I'd keep him in for the rest of the year.

[hammo]

Seaby will come back in place of Pyke as a ruckman. Pyke will stay in the team. He'll pinch hit in the back, up forward and in the ruck. Pyke isn't going anywhere.

No chance. So he's taken one mark in the goal square in a dozen odd games and kicked an unmarked goal. Keep it in perspective. It doesn't make him the next Dean Cox.