Seaby vs Pyke

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    On the Rookie List
    • Jun 2005
    • 237

    #31
    Originally posted by hammo
    No chance. So he's taken one mark in the goal square in a dozen odd games and kicked an unmarked goal. Keep it in perspective. It doesn't make him the next Dean Cox.
    That's not what I meant. I just have a feeling that that is what is going to occur. It doesn't seem to be a very rational thing to do, but I still think it will happen.

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    • swansrule100
      The quarterback
      • May 2004
      • 4538

      #32
      Originally posted by dimelb
      At the end of another season? Whyever not?
      not many other sides would make room for a plodding ruckman who gets 4 possies a game on average
      Theres not much left to say

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      • dimelb
        pr. dim-melb; m not f
        • Jun 2003
        • 6889

        #33
        Originally posted by swansrule100
        not many other sides would make room for a plodding ruckman who gets 4 possies a game on average
        Let's see how he's going at the end of September.
        He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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        • swansrule100
          The quarterback
          • May 2004
          • 4538

          #34
          Originally posted by dimelb
          Let's see how he's going at the end of September.
          probably be enjoying week 4 of holidays
          Theres not much left to say

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          • Nico
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 11343

            #35
            Originally posted by swansrule100
            am i the only one who thinks pyke cant play? oh well, id drop him he has improved but not hard when you start out as nothing to improve somewhat. But around the ground he cant play much at all?

            Seaby was ahead of mumford before injury
            He's a spud. He marked over a midget for that goal on Sunday. He is not a credible backup to Mumford who I thought looked tired last week having taken the bulk of the work since Seaby has been out. We genuinely lack around the ground big man marking. Seaby was doing just that before injured. You can leave him to rest up forward rather than off the ground and know he will make a difference, and make the opposing coach use a credible backman on him.
            Last edited by Nico; 8 July 2010, 06:29 PM.
            http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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            • BSA5
              Senior Player
              • Feb 2008
              • 2522

              #36
              Originally posted by Nico
              He marked over a midget for that goal on Sunday.
              Will Thursfield is hardly a midget, he's a key defender!
              Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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              • magic.merkin
                Senior Player
                • Jul 2008
                • 1199

                #37
                Description Date Opponent Result K HB D M G B T HO GA GC I50 FF FA DT SC
                Round 15 11th Jul North Melbourne Win 85-55 1 6 7 5 0 0 4 17 1 1 2 1 1 61 74

                Another serviceable effort, with some great marks, punches and ruck work. The inside 50 to goodes was sublime. All we ask is for him to improve, and to do his job assisting Mumford till Seaby gets back. He is honoring that request.
                Last edited by magic.merkin; 12 July 2010, 10:53 AM.

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                • magic.merkin
                  Senior Player
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 1199

                  #38
                  Originally posted by BSA5
                  Will Thursfield is hardly a midget, he's a key defender!
                  Height: 191cm

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                  • aardvark
                    Veterans List
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 5685

                    #39
                    Seaby has kicked 68 goals in 108 games. Why not give him a run at CHF and keep pyke as back up to Mummy?

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                    • dimelb
                      pr. dim-melb; m not f
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 6889

                      #40
                      Originally posted by aardvark
                      Seaby has kicked 68 goals in 108 games. Why not give him a run at CHF and keep pyke as back up to Mummy?
                      Makes sense to me.
                      He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                      • caj23
                        Senior Player
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 2462

                        #41
                        Because Seaby wouldn't cut the mustard as a full time forward in terms of scoreboard damage and opposition would rebound off him too much, whilst Pyke is still only a back up option at best in terms of his development.

                        Pyke's ruckwork is excellent, but his around the ground work is still substandard in spite of the major steps forward he has taken

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                        • Go Swannies
                          Veterans List
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 5697

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Will Sangster
                          Because Seaby wouldn't cut the mustard as a full time forward in terms of scoreboard damage and opposition would rebound off him too much, whilst Pyke is still only a back up option at best in terms of his development.

                          Pyke's ruckwork is excellent, but his around the ground work is still substandard in spite of the major steps forward he has taken
                          Were you at the game yesterday? I think the element of excitement here is that three weeks ago Pyke was good at tapwork but not much else. Last week he kicked a goal and contributed about as much as a poor ruckman does around the ground. This week he contributed as much as a fair ruckman would. We can hardly wait for next week.

                          He's not Dean Cox - or Mummy - but he's improved incrementally in the past couple of games. That's why Mummy was joking after the game that Seaby might have a battle to get back in the team. A lot of his effort didn't show on TV. Most improved hardly describes it. He could still only be rated good at ruckwork but it looks like he has the potential to become good around the ground - and we may see that in weeks rather than months or years.

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                          • aardvark
                            Veterans List
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 5685

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Will Sangster
                            Because Seaby wouldn't cut the mustard as a full time forward in terms of scoreboard damage and opposition would rebound off him too much, whilst Pyke is still only a back up option at best in terms of his development.

                            Pyke's ruckwork is excellent, but his around the ground work is still substandard in spite of the major steps forward he has taken
                            I think he would be a far better option than Playfair or Richards.

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                            • aardvark
                              Veterans List
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 5685

                              #44
                              Just thought i'd throw this in the mix....

                              Pyke TOG 46% Hitouts 17 HO to advantage 29%
                              Mummy TOG 69% Hitouts 30 HO to advantage 13%

                              Going by the stats, with similar game time its probable that Pykes Tap work is better than Mummies. Hit outs to advantage is a stat that doesn't lie.

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                              • caj23
                                Senior Player
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 2462

                                #45
                                I agree that he is developing at an astonishing rate but he is starting from a long way back. His skills are coming along really well but I just think its going to take a bit longer for him to get those footy smarts. It's safe to say that yesterday was one of his better games but he still only had 7 possessions.

                                I just wish we got our hands on him about 3-4 years earlier

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