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  • Peace
    On the Rookie List
    • Mar 2010
    • 598

    #31
    Geelong wouldn't have beaten the Melbourne team that showed up yesterday... and we sucked.

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    • johnno
      On the Rookie List
      • Apr 2008
      • 1102

      #32
      People want to know the 'Real' difference between Paul Roos of (2003-2006) to Paul Roos (2007-present)....absolutely nothing.

      The difference is with the rest of the coaches in the AFL, they've finally caught up.

      Roos has pioneered/changed this game so much in his short time as coach, that the other AFL coached have done nothing new and just followed his lead. They're all now doing the same things that he pioneered 7 years ago, the only difference is, they have better cattle on the park than us and thus are getting better results.

      He hasnt gone backwards at all. As I said earlier, the others have 'FINALLY' caught up.

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      • ScottH
        It's Goodes to cheer!!
        • Sep 2003
        • 23665

        #33
        Difference is we slowed the game down by playing tempo footy.
        Now they are playing on at all costs, speeding the game up.

        We've been left behind still trying to play tempo footy.

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        • laughingnome
          Amateur Statsman
          • Jul 2006
          • 1624

          #34
          Originally posted by johnno
          People want to know the 'Real' difference between Paul Roos of (2003-2006) to Paul Roos (2007-present)....absolutely nothing.

          The difference is with the rest of the coaches in the AFL, they've finally caught up.

          Roos has pioneered/changed this game so much in his short time as coach, that the other AFL coached have done nothing new and just followed his lead. They're all now doing the same things that he pioneered 7 years ago, the only difference is, they have better cattle on the park than us and thus are getting better results.

          He hasnt gone backwards at all. As I said earlier, the others have 'FINALLY' caught up.
          If I hear one more idiot commentator say how bright and novel Clarkson is for coaching from the bench I'll spew. Pack of jokers.

          It's tough to stay ahead of the game for so long, which is why new coaches need to bring new ideas, not mimic others.
          10100111001 ;-)

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          • johnno
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            • Apr 2008
            • 1102

            #35
            Originally posted by laughingnome
            If I hear one more idiot commentator say how bright and novel Clarkson is for coaching from the bench I'll spew. Pack of jokers.

            It's tough to stay ahead of the game for so long, which is why new coaches need to bring new ideas, not mimic others.
            This is just one example LG. I'm talking about the whole 'Man mangement' thing.

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            • laughingnome
              Amateur Statsman
              • Jul 2006
              • 1624

              #36
              Originally posted by johnno
              This is just one example LG. I'm talking about the whole 'Man mangement' thing.
              I know I just remember getting the irrites on Friday night. Again.

              The interesting thing is that the management plan has been tried by a couple of league teams and failed miserably. It seems that, for whatever reason, empowering players to make decisions doesn't work in the NRL.
              10100111001 ;-)

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              • Go Swannies
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                • Sep 2003
                • 5697

                #37
                Originally posted by laughingnome
                I know I just remember getting the irrites on Friday night. Again.

                The interesting thing is that the management plan has been tried by a couple of league teams and failed miserably. It seems that, for whatever reason, empowering players to make decisions doesn't work in the NRL.
                How about the NRL's "Respect for Women" programs?

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                • Melbournehammer
                  Senior Player
                  • May 2007
                  • 1815

                  #38
                  Originally posted by ScottH
                  Difference is we slowed the game down by playing tempo footy.
                  Now they are playing on at all costs, speeding the game up.

                  We've been left behind still trying to play tempo footy.

                  odd that because in 2003 i reckon we played the fastest footy going around that year. But we built a team around contested footy. The game is not about contests anymore. At least not in the way it was when a player could hold the ball in a tackle and not get pinged. now they can kick it but because it was only a short kick or a miskick they can get pinged.

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                  • Jewels
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                    • Oct 2006
                    • 3258

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Melbournehammer
                    actually i and quite a lot of others thought something like this was on. carlton were unbelievably poor and melbourne came back from nearly 50 points down to almost beat a team which most people on here think will beat us by 6 goals over there
                    May i just ask where you posted these amazing feats of clairvoyancy? I looked but couldn't find the one where you predicted we'd be beaten let alone as comprehensibly as we were.

                    Originally posted by sWAns63
                    The most disappointing thing for me was the fact that we all know the Swans lack leg speed though we continue to play tired old players. We took nothing out of this game from the previous match except maybe seeing the pace of Jetta for the future.We've hardly played any youngsters like Vez, Currie, Johnston, O'Dwyer, Heath, TDL etc. all of which should be getting multiple games.
                    To me it's all about winning the flag down the track there doesn't seem to be enough emphasis on that and only what well known names seem to look good in the team selection on paper week to week.
                    This season is shot we are not likely to beat most teams we meet in the next few weeks and in the finals it's time to play some kids.
                    Someone on RWO said what if we play the kids and we get thrashed........well we played the experienced players and we got smashed by Melbourne
                    If I recall correctly, the team that played yesterday was the same, all bar one, as the one we were lauding last week.
                    How therefore, does your "play the kids" mantra actually apply?

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                    • Melbournehammer
                      Senior Player
                      • May 2007
                      • 1815

                      #40
                      [QUOTE=Jewels;498647]May i just ask where you posted these amazing feats of clairvoyancy? I looked but couldn't find the one where you predicted we'd be beaten let alone as comprehensibly as we were.

                      I guess you'll just have to trust me but I could get those who I discussed that with offline - but I also made a small profit from the game due to the ridiculous overs that were available on the game (as I did the week before because of the same overs available in the carlton game)

                      On the other hand, lest it be thought that I am a financial wizard, I lost plenty against richmond which I never predicted - in fact I was on the swans on the line in that game

                      punting is a mugs game

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                      • Melbournehammer
                        Senior Player
                        • May 2007
                        • 1815

                        #41
                        [QUOTE=Jewels;498647]May i just ask where you posted these amazing feats of clairvoyancy? I looked but couldn't find the one where you predicted we'd be beaten let alone as comprehensibly as we were.

                        fwiw I thought you could put a reasonable line through melbourne into fremantle, collingwood, and i thought carlton were just terrible - they played us essentially without a forward line

                        and the dermott brereton line that teams often start the following week as they finish the previous week suggested we might be in trouble.

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