"No more honourable losses"

[Swanner]

I don't know about the rest of you but it is time this team actually stepped up in the big games. I think i would rather get thrashed by Geelong than lose by a goal or two in an honourable loss.

This team needs to learn how to win the big ones.

I think it was Goodes after the St Kilda game in round 1 who said he was sick of honourable losses, this game is a classic exmaple of where i expcet us to fight hard but just lose.

They will all turn around pat each other on the back and say near enough was good enough. I think this attitude prevails from the coach down. As a swans supporter i think we should let them know we are expecting a win after the woeful effort last week - not a good try.

Perhaps this is harsh but i think some standards need to be set at our club again. We are good enough to beat Geelong we just need to start believing. Players such as Malceski, McVeigh and O'Keefe need to play at their best, as do the other leaders such as Bolton, Goodes and Kirk. We have the cattle to do it in my humble opinion.

[Bas]

I think you will have your wish granted for a thrashing.

[Dalai Lama]

it may be said that a honourable loss is far better than a dishonourable scouring by the perennial wooden spooners of the last decade - even if the Analyser Voss stick suggests they are to be the next league superpower!

[aardvark]

When the stated aim of the club is to "Not bottom out because we will lose all our supporters", hanging around the middle of the ladder will be the norm. Thus "Honourable losses" to the top sides will be the usual result, like it or not.

[Go Swannies]

When the stated aim of the club is to "Not bottom out because we will lose all our supporters", hanging around the middle of the ladder will be the norm. Thus "Honourable losses" to the top sides will be the usual result, like it or not.

S you want us to get on with the process of bottoming out? You must have been happy with last week as a great start after a couple of weeks of wins against mediocre teams after getting our tanking really moving on after those shocking early wins?

So let's go for a 100 point loss and let's really kick that percentage in the guts so we have a chance of dropping down the ladder below the other crap teams. We should be able to lose by 50 or more for the next few weeks with the Hawks, Freo and the Doggies to follow. Let's hope Fev gets his act together over the next month so Roos and Kirk can quit knowing the team is in great shape to pick up the best rookies imaginable.

Yay!

[liz]

We are good enough to beat Geelong we just need to start believing. Players such as Malceski, McVeigh and O'Keefe need to play at their best, as do the other leaders such as Bolton, Goodes and Kirk. We have the cattle to do it in my humble opinion.

Any team can beat any other on its day, if everything goes right and the other team is slightly off its game. But bear in mind that Geelong are the trail blazing team who have taken all before them for the best part of four seasons now, and we go into the game without 6 of our best 22 players including our two most experienced key defenders, our most experienced key forward and our most experienced ruckman. This compares to Geelong who are probably without four, but one suspects at least a couple of those are "optional" outs - ie they'd play if it were a final.

[Bas]

Any team can beat any other on its day.

I'm struggling to remember when the Swans last did this against the Cats, pies, Dogs, Saints. Although I can go to my reference books to find out but it's been a few years.

[Go Swannies]

I'm struggling to remember when the Swans last did this against the Cats, pies, Dogs, Saints. Although I can go to my reference books to find out but it's been a few years.

Though to be fair I remember the years and years before that when a Doggies mate of mine would fly up full of hope and leave despondent as the Swans beat the Dogs yet again.

Pies 2005? Cats 2006? Saints - to end their unbeaten season in ???

[ShockOfHair]

Any team can beat any other on its day, if everything goes right and the other team is slightly off its game. But bear in mind that Geelong are the trail blazing team who have taken all before them for the best part of four seasons now, and we go into the game without 6 of our best 22 players including our two most experienced key defenders, our most experienced key forward and our most experienced ruckman. This compares to Geelong who are probably without four, but one suspects at least a couple of those are "optional" outs - ie they'd play if it were a final.

So negative. I've got my rabbit's foot AND my lucky jocks lined up for tomorrow.

[Go Swannies]

So negative. I've got my rabbit's foot AND my lucky jocks lined up for tomorrow.

Don't get them confused - particularly if you normally stroke your rabbit's foot for luck during a game.

[hammo]

When the stated aim of the club is to "Not bottom out because we will lose all our supporters", hanging around the middle of the ladder will be the norm. Thus "Honourable losses" to the top sides will be the usual result, like it or not.

It's been a bugbear of mine for a while. Not only should we get used to mid table finishes, but a compromised game plan for a squad deficient in skill and speed to the top teams.

[sWAns63]

It's been a bugbear of mine for a while. Not only should we get used to mid table finishes, but a compromised game plan for a squad deficient in skill and speed to the top teams.

And the bottom ones

[swansrob]

I'm struggling to remember when the Swans last did this against the Cats, pies, Dogs, Saints. Although I can go to my reference books to find out but it's been a few years.

We beat the saints in 2008, I believe.

[aardvark]

S you want us to get on with the process of bottoming out? You must have been happy with last week as a great start after a couple of weeks of wins against mediocre teams after getting our tanking really moving on after those shocking early wins?

So let's go for a 100 point loss and let's really kick that percentage in the guts so we have a chance of dropping down the ladder below the other crap teams. We should be able to lose by 50 or more for the next few weeks with the Hawks, Freo and the Doggies to follow. Let's hope Fev gets his act together over the next month so Roos and Kirk can quit knowing the team is in great shape to pick up the best rookies imaginable.

Yay!

Just a slight over reaction don't you think. Its just a statement of fact . As I have repeatedly said I don't think loyal Swans supporters would really care about a couple of bad years for a chance at a Premiership. All we are doing is avoiding the inevitable. Thats the way the system is designed to work.
In fact I can only remember a few successful years out of the last 50 and I'm still a supporter.

[Matty10]

Thats the way the system is designed to work.

It's a bad system though, and also one that offers no guarantees whatsoever. It really is a fool's paradise to believe that a couple of years down the bottom will automatically be rewarded with premiership success. Having said that, I agree that the Swans would not be destroyed by being bottom-dwellers for a period of time, I just do not believe that it is necessary.