Roos and the Youngsters

[Go Swannies]

Roos is very measured with his words. I remember once trying to get an answer out of him about why Andrew Schauble wasn't getting a game. So I doubt it's a dummy spit. Why bother? Maybe he's doing the "bad cop" to Frosty's and Horse's 'good cops". This would be about the last time he could do it as the next few games will be too close to the golden glow surrounding his and Kirk's final games. But now he's just a coach trying to get his team to the finals. I bet it's something that has been thought through - just as the rush to get a core of Swans players onto contracts for the next few years. If for no other reason, his vanity would require him to leave the team in the best position possible. A boot in the bum for some of the underperforming kids is very likely a step along that path. Next will be talking to the unsigned about their future with the club.

Incidentally, I told Hanners last night that I didn't recognise him in person as he looks so young in person - like a 16yo. I can't imagine the maturity he much have showed to be selected to play last year. And hasn't he lifted to be an indispensible player - I reckon I may have been talking to a future star of the club.

[Xie Shan]

Roos is very measured with his words. I remember once trying to get an answer out of him about why Andrew Schauble wasn't getting a game. So I doubt it's a dummy spit. Why bother? Maybe he's doing the "bad cop" to Frosty's and Horse's 'good cops". This would be about the last time he could do it as the next few games will be too close to the golden glow surrounding his and Kirk's final games. But now he's just a coach trying to get his team to the finals. I bet it's something that has been thought through - just as the rush to get a core of Swans players onto contracts for the next few years.

GS, I like this explanation. His comments are very unusual, but I don't think it's a dummy spit.

He said:

"At the moment there are two or three guys that should be playing that just aren't, simply because of their own lack of performance and more specifically, they just don't want to do what we're asking them to do."

Sounded perfectly reasonable to me - I read it as, the players are good enough to play seniors, but aren't following team instructions. Hence, they aren't getting a game. None of us here know what the instructions are, so I'll give Roos the benefit of the doubt on that one.

Whether he was right to come out and make those comments publicly as a motivational ploy, well, that's another topic for debate

[Primmy]

Re Hanners - I bet you got an intelligent conversation with him. He may look like a kid but he has all the attributes of a bloke who would run his own business and do it successfully. He listens and he learns, quickly.

An awful lot of froo froo being splodged around here (not you GS) over the last few pages. It may come as a bit of a shock but Roos is a very smart man. He knows what he is doing. He actually has hands on knowledge of his players - a bit like you and me DON'T. We are all sitting up in the stands and saying "why doesn't he do this, why didn't he kick it over there, why ".... yada yada yada. It fairly obvious that the coaches and medical staff know a hell of a lot more than we do about the team, the individuals, the problems, the triumphs, the issues...... We are just pretenders (albiet some of us are very astute ones).

We are still a possibility of retaining our position in the 8. Why would you chance untried kids and underperforming almost kids at THIS stage of the season! They thought we would have had some of the injured seniors back by now, but that has been skittled. They have to play the best blokes who available, and who are we to insist that this kid or that kid has a better chance than a 100 or 150 gamer.....or Club Champions......or experienced hard nuts......at this end of the season!

A few deep breaths and lets take in just how frustrated Roos must be to have made statements "as reported"......

[troyjones2525]

At the end of the day we dont know whats happening behind closed doors, what the boys are asked to do in a game and at training. Roos is not dumb and we owe him a lot, i want to see the kids played as much as anyone but if Roos says they dont deserve it then they dont deserve it! Remember Nick Davis? I along with most others wanted him in the team but in the end we got rid of him and nobody else wanted him either! If you are on the inside of the AFL clubs, word obviously gets around. I really hope all these blokes he was aiming at take it on board, grow up and then push for selection in the last couple of games!

[ugg]

It does come across as a bit of a dummy spit by Roos. And if he is referring to their onfield performances, just a tad unfair. True, the team did have a shocker a couple of weeks ago in Canberra (which I saw). They have had one other shocker this season (also in Canberra, which I didn't see). Apart from those two games, they have been performing quite creditably as a team.

I think the Ainslie game probably still sticks in the mind for the coaches and one relatively good game against Eastlake isn't going to erase all the negatives from it. Some of the comments by Frosty after that game were as harsh as you'll see for a development coach.

[Peace]

This article gives a little more depth - ABC Sport - Roos lambasts Swans reserves

He is clearly frustrated that he has a few guys in the firsts playing very poorly, yet there are a few reserves that have the talent but do not seem that hungry.

[Primmy]

This article gives a little more depth - ABC Sport - Roos lambasts Swans reserves

He is clearly frustrated that he has a few guys in the firsts playing very poorly, yet there are a few reserves that have the talent but do not seem that hungry.

You have got it in one.

I feel a little sympathy with my own school teachers after this......

[liz]

I think the Ainslie game probably still sticks in the mind for the coaches and one relatively good game against Eastlake isn't going to erase all the negatives from it. Some of the comments by Frosty after that game were as harsh as you'll see for a development coach.

I've no doubt that's the case. Though when a weak later the seniors put in an even more shocking performance, it was deemed to be just one of those days and something to be moved on from quickly.

I am not actually suggesting that any of these culprits - whoever they are - should get a senior game this weekend, or even next. After undoing a lot of their good work in that game, they do need to do it consistently for a few weeks. I think the comment that most took me by surprise was not one from today, but yesterday's comment that the reserves are struggling a bit this year, something clearly not so (and certainly not so compared to last season).

[bodgie]

So it has come to this. After a few injuries our firsts are getting thrashed. The seconds have no hunger. No-one to bring in, no one to step up except hoping a groin injured ROK and an addled McVeigh will come good. We are paying the price for a delayed redevelopment and the hangover from the bloods culture.

[Peace]

So it has come to this. After a few injuries our firsts are getting thrashed. The seconds have no hunger. No-one to bring in, no one to step up except hoping a groin injured ROK and an addled McVeigh will come good. We are paying the price for a delayed redevelopment and the hangover from the bloods culture.

hahahaha well that's one way to look at it.


I think i'll stick to - we have crucial players injured and its going to take a year or so to develop the depth required to cover this issue.

[aardvark]

I think pretty much the whole list is playing out time until the new coach takes over and that is Roosys real frustration.

[Legs Akimbo]

Roos is saying that although we have players in the firsts injured, out of form and in some cases, not following instructions (recall he lembasted Jessie White in the media last week, mocked Paul Bevan from the boundary before that), he won't promote players from the seconds because they are not following team instructions? Who'd want to be a Sydney player right now?

1. Logically rubbish
2. Tarring a lot of players with the same brush because he won't name names
3. If he can't see that his words demotivate all and sundy he has trully lost the plot

His behaviour in the last month has been cringworthy and I think he is leaving a previously stellar reputation tarnished.

He is a club legend for his achievements in 2005 but that is 5 years ago and he needs to leave now because there is something uncomfortably Sheedylike about this. Yuck.

PS - Just noticed tha the 'reward' for Reid and Gordon is to be named an emergency. Meanwhile, we have players hobbling around and out of form on the field. Laughable.

[Hartijon]

One positive for me about Roosey slamming the reserves is that he finally lifted the lid on their non-selection for the seniors.It's because of their failure to follow instructions. All those posters on here who gave us their lame excuses like
Body not ready,psychologically not ready etc etc etc were wrong.Those who believed these guys are physically ready were right. The fact their heads are not in the right space is to me an indictment on the coaches and their ability to communicate to modern young men.

[Cheer Squad]

Fed-up Roos fires rocket up Swans rookies

"... but there comes a point three, four, five years down the track, if you're not doing the things you're asked to do, there is a point where it becomes reasonable critical".

I wonder who he's referring to specifically? I think it's a pretty safe bet that Barlow fits this critique. I wonder if Vespremi is another? Who else might?

[Captain]

Vez would be at the top of his hit list. Daylight second.

Probably followed by Currie & Johnston.

Barlow is a lost cause, doubt he would be referring to him.