The small skinny kid who couldn't kick

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  • liz
    Veteran
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 16736

    The small skinny kid who couldn't kick

    Bit of a Jack-fest in the media at the moment. Here's quite an amusing article that tracks his path onto the Swans' rookie list.

    Jack wasn't in the box
  • stellation
    scott names the planets
    • Sep 2003
    • 9718

    #2
    I assumed by the thread title this was going to be about Kirk!

    Watching the draft go by and being dissapointed name after name that you're not called out when you haven't even been registered is kind of funny.
    I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
    We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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    • dimelb
      pr. dim-melb; m not f
      • Jun 2003
      • 6889

      #3
      Originally posted by stellation
      I assumed by the thread title this was going to be about Kirk!
      Watching the draft go by and being dissapointed name after name that you're not called out when you haven't even been registered is kind of funny.
      I had the same response!
      No wonder others didn't want him; I'm glad Barham placed so much emphasis on attitude and competitiveness. Reminds me of other blokes who couldn't kick, handball, bounce etc. and hadn't even played the game.
      He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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      • Jewels
        On the Rookie List
        • Oct 2006
        • 3258

        #4
        Originally posted by liz
        Bit of a Jack-fest in the media at the moment. Here's quite an amusing article that tracks his path onto the Swans' rookie list.

        Jack wasn't in the box
        And why shouldn't it be? Kizzas story would be of interest to fans of both codes.
        We've done pretty well picking up players as much on attitude as ability.

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        • Primmy
          Proud Tragic Swan
          • Apr 2008
          • 5970

          #5
          I have come to the conclusion that if you want to be a AFL player, you have to be skinny, unwanted, untalented, but really really want to play no matter what anyone else thinks of you. Like Kirk and Jack, or even LRT.

          At the other end of the equation are the players who get picked up early because they have talent, and that's about it, not a great deal else takes place .....at this stage, it won't serve any further purpose to mention names, but it seems to me the actual differences between the two types of players are above the shoulders, its primarily about mental toughness and attitude.

          It staggers me just how many of the really really good players have come from way down the rankings.
          Last edited by Primmy; 5 September 2010, 09:18 AM.
          If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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          • Bas
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 4457

            #6
            I hope he didn't give the letter to his Dad for posting.

            Could he be the lowest rookie draftee to make it to the top?
            In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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            • -Doogs-
              On the Rookie List
              • Aug 2007
              • 57

              #7
              I think it reflects on the desire of the player to play. Some of those players with less natural talent will tell the story that all the ever wanted to do was play footy and others lose the desire from the age of 18 onwards. However, there's plenty of examples of the top draft picks going on to be excellent players; Cooney is a prime example. Its a bit of a jackpot in a lot of cases. Look at 2007 - Swans take Veszpremi at pick 11, the Hawks take Ciril Rioli at 12 and the Geelong take Harry Taylor at 17. Nothing against Pat, but I think the Hawks and the Cats will be thinking they did better.
              Last edited by -Doogs-; 5 September 2010, 09:42 AM.

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              • Mountain Man
                Regular in the Side
                • Feb 2008
                • 907

                #8
                .........and, add a Pyke success based on determination to learn 'everything' about the game.

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                • neilfws
                  Senior Player
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 1818

                  #9
                  Just discovered a pretty good Jack highlights package on YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBNUJz-iINU
                  Last edited by neilfws; 6 September 2010, 12:20 AM.

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                  • SouthSwans
                    4. Ben Mathews = Hero
                    • May 2008
                    • 16

                    #10
                    Yeah thats vid's mine, check out the Mumford one as well.

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                    • ScottH
                      It's Goodes to cheer!!
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 23665

                      #11
                      He reminds me a lot of one PK

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