2010 Rate the Season: #25 Ted Richards

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  • Blood
    On the Rookie List
    • Dec 2007
    • 164

    #16
    I bagged Ted relentlessly in the past and prayed that he would be delisted.

    I am man enough to now admit that he is a more than capable footballer - thought he was near faultless last season and, FWIW, was a better neutralizer than Reg of the oppositions key forwards.

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    • reigning premier
      Suspended by the MRP
      • Sep 2006
      • 4335

      #17
      Originally posted by RogueSwan
      Only one incident in this thread, you don't even use it in your other two posts.





      Whereas generalisations and insults are sure to prove your point?

      No. Just a better knowledge of football than you is enough to do that.

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      • reigning premier
        Suspended by the MRP
        • Sep 2006
        • 4335

        #18
        Originally posted by ugg
        Show me where I said Richards had a better season than Grundy. I'm just refuting your statement that Ted is supposedly a 'clanger merchant' - the numbers clearly demonstrate that he has less clangers than his teammates who play in the same or similar positions. Go back and look at past seasons and you will see it's not a one-off either.

        But since you bring it up, in the half season that he played in the seniors he had was just as good as Grundy. I don't recall him being beaten convincingly and the main reason I would mark him below Reginald is that he would have lined up against the 2nd or 3rd opposition tall forward as opposed to Grundy taking the main threat.
        Did you bother comparing the volume of possessions that Turnover had Vs Grundy? Did you take into consideration in your wisdom that he was playing against the 3rd or 4th best fwd in comparison to Grundy when you started spruiking stats to demonstrate what a marvel Turnover has been?

        I didn't think so.

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        • ugg
          Can you feel it?
          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 15970

          #19
          Originally posted by reigning premier
          Did you bother comparing the volume of possessions that Turnover had Vs Grundy? Did you take into consideration in your wisdom that he was playing against the 3rd or 4th best fwd in comparison to Grundy when you started spruiking stats to demonstrate what a marvel Turnover has been?

          I didn't think so.
          Okay let's bring that stat into play. Richards averaged 14.3 possessions and 1.0 clangers meaning 7.1% of his touches were clangers. Grundy had 20.3 touches and 2.0 clangers for a percentage of 9.9%. So again Ted comes out on top

          As for your second point, if you had bothered to read my post, I did acknowledge that Ted did play on the 2nd or 3rd forwards. In any case, the quality of the forward has little to do with how many turnovers the defender has with the ball in hand.

          But RP please do not let facts get in the way of your grudge.
          Last edited by ugg; 19 January 2011, 08:34 AM.
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          • Big Al
            Veterans List
            • Feb 2005
            • 7007

            #20
            Ted did a good job for us last year and I can't think of too many occassions where he made critical errors. He's not in our best 22 but he is a good replacement when the inevitable injuries occur.
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            • Yuri H
              That One Over There
              • Aug 2005
              • 588

              #21
              Originally posted by Primmy
              Looks like Ted Bear has some defenders on his side, and fairly eloquent ones at that. Never knock that young man. He perhaps is not the greatest player on the list, but he is by noo means the worst. I do believe Goodsey dropped a ball once. Braddy left one behind too. Peb even missed a kick for goal, if my memory serves me right. I could go on, but the argument is not worth the candle. We, the Ted Bear Appreciation Society, have greater numbers and it would seem a bit more common sense.
              I'll sit on Primmy's bench with this one.

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              • Plugger46
                Senior Player
                • Apr 2003
                • 3674

                #22
                6. Did a really important job when we needed him. Never going to be a gun because he makes poor decisions too often. Handy depth player, as he showed in the back half of the year.

                Gets a point deducted for that overrated blog.
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                • laughingnome
                  Amateur Statsman
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 1624

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Plugger46
                  Gets a point deducted for that overrated blog.
                  !!
                  10100111001 ;-)

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                  • CJK
                    Human
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 2170

                    #24
                    7 - good season.

                    reigning premier gets an 8 for making a fool of themselves in this thread. Well done.
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                    • reigning premier
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 4335

                      #25
                      Originally posted by ugg
                      Okay let's bring that stat into play. Richards averaged 14.3 possessions and 1.0 clangers meaning 7.1% of his touches were clangers. Grundy had 20.3 touches and 2.0 clangers for a percentage of 9.9%. So again Ted comes out on top

                      As for your second point, if you had bothered to read my post, I did acknowledge that Ted did play on the 2nd or 3rd forwards. In any case, the quality of the forward has little to do with how many turnovers the defender has with the ball in hand.

                      But RP please do not let facts get in the way of your grudge.
                      .......... Just waiting for you to bring a Supercoach score into the equation......

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                      • Jesse Richards
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 292

                        #26
                        Ted returned from a significant injury last year. Changed his game style according to coaches' instructions.

                        I've posted elsewhere about when and why I started taking notice of Ted Richards and have changed from being an unashamed knocker to a begrudging admirer to an enthusiastic supporter.

                        Because I watch every game at least twice, make notes during the games and discuss my impressions with fellow fans, sometimes I resort to looking at stats for a reality check.

                        Don't believe that I should be insulted for being conscientious and neither should Ted.

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                        • Chilcott
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 595

                          #27
                          Acknowledge both arguments about the value of Ted.

                          He did have a very good 2010 season, with clanger count down and a higher effective disposals. However, what is apparent to me is that Ted's clangers are glaringly obvious, whereas, others may not be.

                          Also, when he makes a poor decision, it stands out like a West Coast cheer squad member amongst a bunch of models.

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                          • reigning premier
                            Suspended by the MRP
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 4335

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Chilcott
                            Acknowledge both arguments about the value of Ted.

                            He did have a very good 2010 season, with clanger count down and a higher effective disposals. However, what is apparent to me is that Ted's clangers are glaringly obvious, whereas, others may not be.

                            Also, when he makes a poor decision, it stands out like a West Coast cheer squad member amongst a bunch of models.
                            Sounds about fair....

                            He's only half a spud...

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                            • caj23
                              Senior Player
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 2462

                              #29
                              Originally posted by laughingnome
                              Is this one of the cases where we don't want facts (or statistics) to ruin a good stereotype?
                              Yep - see the Bevan thread

                              Great comeback in the 2nd half of the season from Teddy when it looked like he'd be stuck in Canberra

                              His job to keep Barry Hall quiet in the 2nd half of the final after Reg was given a bath was fantastic and went unnoticed or underrated from the majority of supporters.

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                              • Primmy
                                Proud Tragic Swan
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 5970

                                #30
                                Go all you Ted Bear Good Things, who notice stuff!!!!! I wuv you all!!!!

                                Jesse, I go to all the ressies games and make notes on where we are heading; I record every seniors games, and have most of them going back to 1997; that's what keeps me sane on sunday mornings, when it is so quiet and there is no football on. NOTHing wrong with keeping records and watching the game twice. Most of us would admit to more....

                                I can never remember stats, just cheers and groans and WhatTha!! moments, seasoned with a good pair of binoculars that confirm Craig has ice on his archilles, Peb is still shaking his head, Hanners is getting strapped, and whether or not we are down to 3 or 2 on the bench. I get a good grasp of why something is happening, and I have a darned good grasp of how a player is travelling by his attitude, and the attitude of his fellow teammates. I trust their judgement more than I do most of us!
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