Saints or Sinners?

[Frog]

Saints discipline/suspend and fine 4 players after NZ trip

Story here.

Looks like Zac Dawson may be out of FanFooty contention ...

[ScottH]

Maybe the Hawks got rid of Zac for more reasons than just his lack of football skills at the time.

[dimelb]

I'd like to be a fly on the wall when Ross Lyon had a word with them.

[agro]

All this instability is a natural advantage for the swans. Like Master Tzu says:

Disciplined and calm, to await the appearance of disorder and hubbub amongst the enemy:--this is the art of retaining self-possession.

If, however, you are indulgent, but unable to make your authority felt; kind-hearted, but unable to enforce your commands; and incapable, moreover, of quelling disorder: then your soldiers must be likened to spoilt children; they are useless for any practical purpose.

[Big Al]

All this instability is a natural advantage for the swans. Like Master Tzu says:

Disciplined and calm, to await the appearance of disorder and hubbub amongst the enemy:--this is the art of retaining self-possession.

If, however, you are indulgent, but unable to make your authority felt; kind-hearted, but unable to enforce your commands; and incapable, moreover, of quelling disorder: then your soldiers must be likened to spoilt children; they are useless for any practical purpose.

My goodness that's deep, dont understand a word of it, but really deep.

[ShockOfHair]

Oops!

The Age yesterday wrote that Lyon had reportedly told the four errant players ''you can all get f---ed''. The Age accepts that Lyon did not use those words.

Saints hit by fresh claims

[Industrial Fan]

Saints: the new West Coast.

[agro]

My goodness that's deep, dont understand a word of it, but really deep.

LOL, Yeah, I was hoping Kirky would appreciate it. It is from Sun Tzu's "art of war", an ancient Chinese text on the philosophy of military strategy.