Is Jesse White being kept as a secret weapon?

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  • Primmy
    Proud Tragic Swan
    • Apr 2008
    • 5970

    #16
    Originally posted by Quiet_Observer
    ?It has been quite hard. I?d just got right back into it, head down and bum up after recovering from the shoulder, when I did the ankle,?? he said

    Now I see why he usually had a problem with his marks. Pointing his bum skyward may well scare the defender as well as most spectators behind the goal posts but with your head down you won't even see the ball.
    Thanks for that Q, you have made my day.
    If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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    • magic.merkin
      Senior Player
      • Jul 2008
      • 1199

      #17
      ^ made my week.

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      • Nich
        Senior Player
        • May 2010
        • 1291

        #18
        Originally posted by dimelb
        Good to see, and good on him, I hope he has a blinder wherever he plays. It has been said many times in this forum that he has the ingredients - size, pace, agility, eagerness, good hands, above-average accuracy as a kick - all he needs is to bring them together more often. Jesse firing on all cylinders would take two defenders and have a good chance of beating them.
        Best day was when he was crashing packs against Hawthorn. He was going up with 3 others and all three where lying on the ground scattered afterwards. Once he starts to be more aggressive in the contests we'll start to see results. The kid is a giant. He just needs to go harder at the ball. Not sure if it's a basketball thing from his young days where knocking people over isn't quite allowed but Jesse has to start getting forceful. Use the force Jesse.

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        • stellation
          scott names the planets
          • Sep 2003
          • 9723

          #19
          I think the coaching staff need to sit down with Jesse and break his game down into quarters and just look for him to do X good things per quarter and give him clear cut expectations of what those good things include- I imagine they are already doing this, of course. Just make sure that those dozen good things aren't kicking a goal or taking a mark but more get to a contest at full tilt, tackle, strong sheperd, hard lead, double lead, etc. Just simple things to keep him focused all game, broken down into quarters- I don't expect he will be there on the field counting, but it gives a clear target to talk to when reviewing match tape.

          For what it's worth, I think even on the games where he appears to go missing he'd probably tick a suprising number of boxes for good things through a game when they view his match tape already.
          I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
          We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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          • stellation
            scott names the planets
            • Sep 2003
            • 9723

            #20
            Originally posted by Nich
            Best day was when he was crashing packs against Hawthorn. He was going up with 3 others and all three where lying on the ground scattered afterwards. Once he starts to be more aggressive in the contests we'll start to see results. The kid is a giant. He just needs to go harder at the ball. Not sure if it's a basketball thing from his young days where knocking people over isn't quite allowed but Jesse has to start getting forceful. Use the force Jesse.
            It's interesting, I don't think he's afraid of contact in the slightest- I've certainly seen him back into packs/willing take a hit he knows is coming to get off clean disposal etc. ; I honestly think that the big guy might be a bit of a softy on the inside and simply doesn't want to hurt anyone.

            I've definitely seen him pull out of big hits he could put on people because they'd already got rid of the ball and there was no point.
            I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
            We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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            • BSA5
              Senior Player
              • Feb 2008
              • 2522

              #21
              White isn't afraid of contact, but sometimes he's just doesn't look confident that crashing the pack is the right move. It's indecision, rather than fear.
              Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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              • Hartijon
                On the Rookie List
                • May 2008
                • 1536

                #22
                Originally posted by BSA5
                White isn't afraid of contact, but sometimes he's just doesn't look confident that crashing the pack is the right move. It's indecision, rather than fear.
                You've hit the nail right on the head! Luckily this problem tends to go with age and experience. If undecided its better to go with your first instinct but to do this you must be confident in your self. "trying too hard" is another symptom of a player lacking confidence. 100 games should cure it for Jesse. Certainly Leo Barry had no problem launching for a pack mark in the last few seconds of a GF. If he had been indecisive.........?????

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                • supersall
                  On the Rookie List
                  • May 2008
                  • 122

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Hartijon
                  You've hit the nail right on the head! Luckily this problem tends to go with age and experience. If undecided its better to go with your first instinct but to do this you must be confident in your self. "trying too hard" is another symptom of a player lacking confidence. 100 games should cure it for Jesse. Certainly Leo Barry had no problem launching for a pack mark in the last few seconds of a GF. If he had been indecisive.........?????
                  Don't even go there
                  I'm not arrogant, I'm right

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                  • Xie Shan
                    Senior Player
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 2929

                    #24
                    with apologies to rick springfield and cory monteith:

                    Jesse is a friend, yeah I know he's been a good friend of mine
                    But lately something's changed, that ain't hard to define
                    He's kicking lots of goals and doesn't kick behinds

                    (Now where was that old thread where people made up their own Swans-related lyrics to well-known songs?? Attempted a search but no luck)

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                    • Dalai Lama
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 632

                      #25
                      Snow Job

                      Too many "tough stickers"?
                      Snow had better stop watching so much Miami stInk and start watching the footy --- more ink than a squid may not be helping?

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                      • swansrob
                        Senior Player
                        • May 2009
                        • 1265

                        #26
                        How did Jesse go the other night? Did I read somewhere he was playing down back?

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                        • Primmy
                          Proud Tragic Swan
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 5970

                          #27
                          I think, if you look at the score, it would have been dificult for Jesse to shine, there was not much activity down back in that game.
                          If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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                          • Hartijon
                            On the Rookie List
                            • May 2008
                            • 1536

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Primmy
                            I think, if you look at the score, it would have been dificult for Jesse to shine, there was not much activity down back in that game.
                            I am starting to think that the match against the Suns was a mistake. We may in fact have got more out of an internal scratch match. By that I mean,we could have given Jesse a player like Goodes to try and spoil to see if he could be a defender. We could have found out how the other Swans who missed a game could have performed. Playing the Suns told us nothing about anyone really with the exception of Goodes.There is Goodes, a country mile,then everybody else! Well many of us knew that already.
                            Let's hope the match against St Kilda will be a real workout in terms of team work and game plans and not just a fitness test.

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                            • Bas
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 4457

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Primmy
                              I think, if you look at the score, it would have been dificult for Jesse to shine, there was not much activity down back in that game.
                              Quite a contrast to what was happening in Sydney that night!

                              PS Yes I know I need help but they'll have to catch me first.
                              In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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                              • andyn
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 102

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Hartijon
                                I am starting to think that the match against the Suns was a mistake. We may in fact have got more out of an internal scratch match. By that I mean,we could have given Jesse a player like Goodes to try and spoil to see if he could be a defender. We could have found out how the other Swans who missed a game could have performed. Playing the Suns told us nothing about anyone really with the exception of Goodes.There is Goodes, a country mile,then everybody else! Well many of us knew that already.
                                Let's hope the match against St Kilda will be a real workout in terms of team work and game plans and not just a fitness test.
                                We've been reasonably lucky to draw Saints and Collingwood in pre-season. You can see how playing lesser competition can mess with your level of intensity. Look at the first quarter against Collingwood (or event the loss to Suns in NAB cup after playing GWS).

                                On Jesse White, gotta love the guy. There's no other player I'd prefer to kick on than him this year. With Braddy coming and going, we need a forward target like him to be able to take that next step as a team.

                                I've always worried that if Jesse doesn't make it at the Swans he'll eventually get signed by Gold Coast. Local boy heading home ... you'd think he'd have to be in their sights wouldn't you? Anyone know anything I don't about why or why this won't happen?
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