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  • msb
    On the Rookie List
    • Mar 2006
    • 827

    #91
    Originally posted by Big Al
    We are building a side at the moment with a lot of new faces so we will get nights like Sat night especially against the very good sides. If we're playing like that next year I'll be less tolerant but this year I'll put up with some poor performances.
    Yeah agree....not sure if anyone else has mentioned this but there was a telling stat the other night that one of the commentators said, cant remember who though, think it was tim lane. Anyway 11 players out of the swans team had played 50 games or less (could that be correct? I was quite surprised) while geelong only had 1-2 players in this catergory. Sure we could of played better but thats gonna make it tough to win with that comparison. I didnt expect to win, geelong are still a great team and we are still a fair way off them.

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    • Go Swannies
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      • Sep 2003
      • 5697

      #92
      Originally posted by msb
      Yeah agree....not sure if anyone else has mentioned this but there was a telling stat the other night that one of the commentators said, cant remember who though, think it was tim lane. Anyway 11 players out of the swans team had played 50 games or less (could that be correct? I was quite surprised) while geelong only had 1-2 players in this catergory. Sure we could of played better but thats gonna make it tough to win with that comparison. I didnt expect to win, geelong are still a great team and we are still a fair way off them.
      See post #52. It was Horse. (or maybe a commentator said it too I still haven't had the energy to watch the game on TV. To get the true atmosphere I'd have to lug the set into the shower with me.)

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      • Plugger46
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2003
        • 3674

        #93
        Got beaten by a better side in conditions that clearly didn't suit us. It happens. We played poorly and were right in the game early in the last quarter so it's not all doom and gloom as far as I'm concerned.

        Got a few players down on form and a few to come back. We'll get better as the season goes on and we've got a couple of wins in the bank when we should've/could've lost so I'm still pretty positive.
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        • Bas
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          • Jan 2003
          • 4457

          #94
          The Daily Terror is saying up to 4 changes. Kennelly and Moore to return and suggesting Mike take over from Jesse. I would like to see that happen. Jesse has not taken opportunity of his 4 starts and back to the reserves until he learns. That's if Iron Mike ever lets him back into the team.
          In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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          • Gary
            Regular in the Side
            • Sep 2005
            • 608

            #95
            We are a pretty ordinary team with AWFUL ball skills...we were carried away with not very much (if I was an Essendon supporter I would have been blaming the umpire)...not impressed with the job or pro activity of the coaching at this early stage...Everitt is basically ordinary & has no place near a back line.

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            • DLBIA14
              On the Rookie List
              • May 2010
              • 673

              #96
              The reality is our disposal efficiency is awful, our team lacked the experience and hardness to handle the wet conditions, our forward line structure completely broke down, our back line is being single-handedly held together by Teddy and our coaching staff made massive blunders (Scarlett).

              It should be noted though that our skills can be worked on over the next week, our youngsters can get a little breather and make some room for our highly missed seniors and the coaching staff can dissect and improve on where we went wrong and how we will annihilate Carltank in a couple of weeks.

              I'm normally one of those people you can't stand losing and gets really riled up about how we screwed up in the game, but this time I'm quite calm in accepting that the cats are better than us at this moment. Why? Becasue I'm secure in the knowledge that we have the improvement in us to beat them or at least get might close later in the year.

              The REALITY IS if it wasn't for us completely butchering the ball we would have beat them on Saturday and no one can convince me otherwise.

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              • barry
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                • Jan 2003
                • 8499

                #97
                I wouldnt worry to much about that game.

                In the conditions, it suited the stronger bodies and more experience of Geelong. And backing up from a perth game is hard for everyone.

                In hindsight we should have play Kennelly and Moore, but longer term we did the right thing.

                The next 3 or 4 rounds after easter will give us a better gauge of where we are.

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                • Big Al
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                  • Feb 2005
                  • 7007

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Gary
                  We are a pretty ordinary team with AWFUL ball skills...we were carried away with not very much (if I was an Essendon supporter I would have been blaming the umpire)...not impressed with the job or pro activity of the coaching at this early stage...Everitt is basically ordinary & has no place near a back line.
                  What would you have the Coaching staff do differently??

                  For starters we are a rebuilding with a lot of inexperienced players in the side but even then I wouldn't categorize us "pretty ordinary" and I certainly wouldn't shout awful ball skill even though some of our disposal does need improving. Experience at this level will correct that.

                  Not impressed with Everitt in defense and will struggle to hold a place when LRT and Tadgh are ready to come back.
                  ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

                  Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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                  • Gary
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 608

                    #99
                    It's a good thing to remain calm...but the ball skills thing seems more ingrained than something they can patch up quickly...we got away with it for 3 weeks.

                    I'm afraid I'm reading Longmire as a little too passive.

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                    • Big Al
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                      • Feb 2005
                      • 7007

                      Originally posted by barry

                      In hindsight we should have play Kennelly and Moore, but longer term we did the right thing.

                      The next 3 or 4 rounds after easter will give us a better gauge of where we are.
                      Those 2 weren't ready to come back. Both struggled in the Ressies the week before so I wasn't surprised they were given another week.
                      ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

                      Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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                      • Big Al
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                        • Feb 2005
                        • 7007

                        Originally posted by Gary

                        I'm afraid I'm reading Longmire as a little too passive.
                        Floors yours Gary... Put your coaches hat on and tell us what Horse should be doing differently.
                        ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

                        Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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                        • BRISWAN
                          Warming the Bench
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 304

                          DLBIA14 I agree with you that we did butcher the ball for three quarters, but if THE POD had taken his chances the result would have been the same.

                          Sorry, but they were better than us and I am not a fan of the divers from Sleepy Hollow who love to help umpires make decisions

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                          • barry
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                            • Jan 2003
                            • 8499

                            in the first half we had Bevan on Scarlett. Seemed a good match up as Bevan is our defensive forward. I'm not sure if Bevan got moved, or just stopped manning up after that ?

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                            • Bas
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                              • Jan 2003
                              • 4457

                              So it has been said that the Swans had 11 players with less than 50 games. Lets have a look at this in more detail:

                              Backs

                              Paul Bevan - 125 games
                              Ted Richards - 136
                              Martin Mattner - 171
                              Rhyce Shaw - 142
                              Heath Grundy - 73
                              Alex Johnson - 2

                              Centres

                              Ben McGlynn - 61
                              Kieren Jack - 74
                              Nicholas Smith - 32

                              Half forward

                              Jude Bolton - 260
                              Sam Reid - 4
                              Adam Goodes - 279

                              Forwards

                              Ryan O'Keefe - 212
                              Jesse White - 43
                              Josh P. Kennedy - 40-

                              Rucks

                              Shane Mumford - 45
                              Craig Bird - 43
                              Jarrad McVeigh - 150


                              Interchange

                              Daniel Hannebery - 31
                              Gary Rohan - 12
                              Lewis Jetta - 23
                              Andrejs Everitt - 39

                              Apart from A Johnson who I credited 2 games, didn't check whether he played Rd 1. I gave all others 3 games credit from end of last years stats. We had the following break down:-

                              0 to 50 games - 11 players
                              51 to 100 games - 3 players
                              101 to 150 games - 4 players
                              151 to 200 games - 1 player
                              201 plus games - 3 players

                              So there was plenty of experience in the back line on Saturday night. So it was fairly balanced in terms of the starting line up but the experience really dropped away with the interchange but then 3 out of 4 interchange were midfielders.

                              At least we wont be called an aging team anymore with this ratio.
                              Last edited by Bas; 18 April 2011, 10:01 PM.
                              In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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                              • gossipcom
                                Senior Player
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 2585

                                Johnson debuted against Weagles so only on 2 games.

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