RIP Jesse White's Career

[laughingnome]

Longmire seems to think that switching White back and forward between the forward line and the ruck is hindering his development as a forward.

Am I the only one that thinks the obvious call is to play Pyke (or Seaby) as a second ruck, White at FF and Mummy resting forward when not rucking? Reid at CHF (good hands, long kick), Goodes in the midfield with LRT (when fit, hopefully for the Paddle-aid game) and Grundy down back.

[Bas]

Am I the only one that thinks the obvious call is to play Pyke (or Seaby) as a second ruck, White at FF and Mummy resting forward when not rucking? Reid at CHF (good hands, long kick), Goodes in the midfield with LRT (when fit, hopefully for the Paddle-aid game) and Grundy down back.

Makes very good sense to me.

[Plugger46]

Am I the only one that thinks the obvious call is to play Pyke (or Seaby) as a second ruck, White at FF and Mummy resting forward when not rucking? Reid at CHF (good hands, long kick), Goodes in the midfield with LRT (when fit, hopefully for the Paddle-aid game) and Grundy down back.

I guess the problem is only having two runners on the bench, given the sub-rule. Probably makes us a bit slow and reduces our flexibility with the rotations.

[Margie]

Longmire seems to think that switching White back and forward between the forward line and the ruck is hindering his development as a forward:

AFL | Sydney Swans coach John Longmire tries to find best fit

Perhaps ominously, he also uses the phrase "when or whether" in relation to Bradshaw's return.

He sounds very conservative in that article about making any changes.

[swansrule100]

longmire is very conservative in that report, if LRT played well and is important to our structure and we are losing why would he play reserves again?

[johnno]

As strange as this may sound....Jesse White NEEDS Daniel Bradshaw back in the side as soon as possible!!!!

Think about it people.

[liz]

longmire is very conservative in that report, if LRT played well and is important to our structure and we are losing why would he play reserves again?

LRT looked seriously short of a gallop on Friday afternoon. I wouldn't be surprised to see him play another couple of reserves games. They made Kennelly play three and have an intensive training bout over the bye and he hadn't been missing from the team for as long as LRT has.

[ugg]

Plus the Dogs won't have a tall forward setup on Saturday. We could easily cover them with Ted Reg and LJ (Yes, I'm pushing his case very hard!)

[Donners]

Longmire seems to think that switching White back and forward between the forward line and the ruck is hindering his development as a forward:

AFL | Sydney Swans coach John Longmire tries to find best fit

Perhaps ominously, he also uses the phrase "when or whether" in relation to Bradshaw's return.

He's only had 12 hitouts in 6 games, so if he is spending any sort of time in the ruck (I really haven't seen him at many ruck contests), he's getting slaughtered. Pyke was there in the last game and White still went missing, and he's had five years on the list to develop as a forward.

[Plugger46]

I still reckon he'll be alright. Not doing enough at the moment but conditions in the last two games haven't exactly suited him.

[GongSwan]

Am I the only one that thinks the obvious call is to play Pyke (or Seaby) as a second ruck, White at FF and Mummy resting forward when not rucking? Reid at CHF (good hands, long kick), Goodes in the midfield with LRT (when fit, hopefully for the Paddle-aid game) and Grundy down back.

No you're not, I've been pushing this for a while now, (of course, I'm nobody, doesn't stop me having an opinion). I'd play Seaby, he played a fair bit of wing/forward at the Weagles, and is far more experienced than Pyke, much as I like Mike, I think Seaby would give more and would probably work harder to keep his spot in the team, given that he would replace White who would be pushing back for his spot, Bevan and Moore in the pockets, Reid at CHF, Okeefe and Shaw flanks. Shaw or TDL, Seaby out of the goalsquare, a ttracting a tall defender, if the bulldogs have LAke on Seaby who do they play on Reid? God I wish Eski was fit and LRT was back, that willl b a while tho, and their return will need to be staggered, so they aren't all buggered at the same time, I just hope we get some dry weather

[laughingnome]

Am I the only one that thinks the obvious call is to play Pyke (or Seaby) as a second ruck, White at FF and Mummy resting forward when not rucking? Reid at CHF (good hands, long kick), Goodes in the midfield with LRT (when fit, hopefully for the Paddle-aid game) and Grundy down back.

No you're not, I've been pushing this for a while now, (of course, I'm nobody, doesn't stop me having an opinion). I'd play Seaby, he played a fair bit of wing/forward at the Weagles, and is far more experienced than Pyke, much as I like Mike, I think Seaby would give more and would probably work harder to keep his spot in the team, given that he would replace White who would be pushing back for his spot, Bevan and Moore in the pockets, Reid at CHF, Okeefe and Shaw flanks. Shaw or TDL, Seaby out of the goalsquare, a ttracting a tall defender, if the bulldogs have LAke on Seaby who do they play on Reid? God I wish Eski was fit and LRT was back, that willl b a while tho, and their return will need to be staggered, so they aren't all buggered at the same time, I just hope we get some dry weather

I think there is room for both Pyke and White in the side (albeit a tall one), but Seaby is a straight-swap for White if Longmire wants to continue this charade of a FF who can ruck ~20% of the game.

[Jewels]

He's only had 12 hitouts in 6 games, so if he is spending any sort of time in the ruck (I really haven't seen him at many ruck contests), he's getting slaughtered. Pyke was there in the last game and White still went missing, and he's had five years on the list to develop as a forward.

Yep, spot on Donners. I've been a Jesse advocate up until now, but Friday was the last straw, the excuses have run out.

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

Am I the only one that thinks the obvious call is to play Pyke (or Seaby) as a second ruck, White at FF and Mummy resting forward when not rucking? Reid at CHF (good hands, long kick), Goodes in the midfield with LRT (when fit, hopefully for the Paddle-aid game) and Grundy down back.

Even in the wet? Horse learnt the hard way that playing two many talls on a wet track is tantamount to suicide. Pyke is a decent tap ruckman but his around the ground skills are still lacking. Mummy & Seebs as ruckman, with one resting in the forward line.

Regards of poor weather, is anyone alarmed that in at least 3 games this season we have already squandered decent leads.

As per White, I have always worried that as an athlete nabbed from basketball he lacks basic football skills. Reid is tall and gangly himself, but DOES have those skills. Teaching a player where to position himself is harder than you think if you aren't brought up with AFL. Ask K Hunt how he is finding it!

Sadly I feel the Swans themselves have help destroy White's confidence. Was was being earmarked as out tall leading forward by the end of Season 2009. Then we go & sign Bradshaw. We initially try to play them both in the team & it flops. Bradshaw gets injured & White's confidence is already shot as he knows he is number 2 in the pecking order. The impetus we made with him as a tall full forward was virtually lost.

I'm sure the Suns would be keen on taking him off us. But who'd we get of theirs who could help our team?

JF

[Big Al]

Sadly I feel the Swans themselves have help destroy White's confidence. Was was being earmarked as out tall leading forward by the end of Season 2009. Then we go & sign Bradshaw. We initially try to play them both in the team & it flops. Bradshaw gets injured & White's confidence is already shot as he knows he is number 2 in the pecking order. The impetus we made with him as a tall full forward was virtually lost.

If true he needs to get over himself pretty quickly and show some professionalism.