RIP Jesse White's Career

[swansrule100]

LRT looked seriously short of a gallop on Friday afternoon. I wouldn't be surprised to see him play another couple of reserves games. They made Kennelly play three and have an intensive training bout over the bye and he hadn't been missing from the team for as long as LRT has.

cheers makes more sense, only going by longmire saying he played well.

[liz]

I think there is room for both Pyke and White in the side (albeit a tall one), but Seaby is a straight-swap for White if Longmire wants to continue this charade of a FF who can ruck ~20% of the game.

I imagine Pyke was brought in with that role in mind and one game in the wet isn't sufficient to judge whether he is up for it or not. I realise that you can't easily translate reserves form into expectations of what a player will provide at senior level, but in the handful of games the two have played this year for the reserves, Pyke has been more effective in front of goal as well as better in the ruck. I am sure the coaching staff deliberated long and hard about the Pyke vs Seaby option, but once they plumped for Pyke it surely makes no sense to give up on him after just one game, especially in those conditions. Wouldn't it be better to give Pyke a few games and then if he is having no impact, give Seaby a go?

[swansrule100]

if white is dropped is there room for pyke seaby and mumford in the side?

[liz]

Why would you want all three? What we're missing is an effective target at FF. The ruckman is meant to be a second tall deep target when resting, not the main one unless they are really a forward who rucks a bit.

[juliec]

Jetta would be in line for the chop before either White or Bevan.

Both White and Bevan have scored handy goals for us on more than one occasion, but Jetta seems to still be trading on his performance in last year's NAB Cup match at Blacktown.

His speed is really not that useful to us on a small and congested ground like the SCG, although it comes in handy elsewhere. It's his accuracy that's the problem. Returns of 8.24 in 25 games overall (and 3.11 at the SCG) suggests he needs a fair bit of time in the reserves working on it.

I agree, I think Jetta should spend some time in the reserves, make him try a bit harder to get his spot back in the seniors, I think he got his spot in the seniors and just stayed there with what it seemed like a times with not too much effort, will do him good to stay down until he deserves his spot in the seniors back.

Just my thoughts

[johnno]

Even in the wet? Horse learnt the hard way that playing two many talls on a wet track is tantamount to suicide. Pyke is a decent tap ruckman but his around the ground skills are still lacking. Mummy & Seebs as ruckman, with one resting in the forward line.

Regards of poor weather, is anyone alarmed that in at least 3 games this season we have already squandered decent leads.

As per White, I have always worried that as an athlete nabbed from basketball he lacks basic football skills. Reid is tall and gangly himself, but DOES have those skills. Teaching a player where to position himself is harder than you think if you aren't brought up with AFL. Ask K Hunt how he is finding it!

Sadly I feel the Swans themselves have help destroy White's confidence. Was was being earmarked as out tall leading forward by the end of Season 2009. Then we go & sign Bradshaw. We initially try to play them both in the team & it flops. Bradshaw gets injured & White's confidence is already shot as he knows he is number 2 in the pecking order. The impetus we made with him as a tall full forward was virtually lost.

I'm sure the Suns would be keen on taking him off us. But who'd we get of theirs who could help our team?

JF

Sorry, but I disagree with comment about ruining Jesse White when we had both White and Bradshaw playing. I actually think White was playing some of his best football when Bradshaw was in the side.

[supersall]

Jesse plays well with TDL and Bradshaw in the side. It wasn't just White, all our forwards melted into the midfield on Friday. Ball came down aplenty, and nary a swan in sight.

[swansrule100]

Why would you want all three? What we're missing is an effective target at FF. The ruckman is meant to be a second tall deep target when resting, not the main one unless they are really a forward who rucks a bit.

i wouldnt want all 3 as lumbering ruckman, is one of them capable of taking whites role as a key forward target with the occasional chop out in the ruck as a 3rd option. I wouldnt of thought so, was just thinking outloud, well on my keyboard.

I wouldnt of put pyke in the other night in the first place. But now he is in i would leave him for a while.

How far is Currie off from playing seniors? will it ever happen? can he play whites role?

[Bleed Red Blood]

Even in the wet? Horse learnt the hard way that playing two many talls on a wet track is tantamount to suicide. Pyke is a decent tap ruckman but his around the ground skills are still lacking. Mummy & Seebs as ruckman, with one resting in the forward line.

Umm. So after 20+ years in football, Horse didn't know that about talls? Should we perhaps send a memo on the fundamentals of our game?