Should Mummy seriously be considered for full forward?

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  • Dosser
    Just wild about Harry
    • Mar 2011
    • 1833

    Should Mummy seriously be considered for full forward?

    I used to be of the opinion that to move Mummy anywhere from the ruck was crazy as it robs us of our main weapon, however after having several rethinks I have a hypothesis that I would like to put to my fellow RWO devotees.

    In the good old days of Roos our forward setup was simple - we had a strong leading CHF (Hall) who would mark up the ground then turn and bomb it to one of the best body-to-body FFs in the game (O'Laughlin) who would outmanouvre his opponent to score. However, when MickyO retired we had to replace him with like-for-like, so when Bradshaw became available we licked our lips and went for him. In addition, when Hall left it simply meant that Goodes could slip into the role of lead-up CHF instead.

    The problem has occurred since Braddy couldnt play and we needed another big, strong FF who could body-on-body, and that is why White got the job. Unfortunately, it hasnt worked out (so far) so our entire forward structure has suffered.

    Now, at the moment we have three ruckmen: Mummy (A grade), Seaby (A-) and Pyke (B with a bullet) but no FF. I believe that if we have Seabs and Pyke carrying the ruck and Mummy at FF, then we have probably the best body-on-body man (who can take a grab) at FF - and he can also tackle and crumb as well! In addition, with Reid at CHF, then Goodes is released through the middle to cover for Jack's absence and break the lines to get it up to FF in the first place.

    Am I crazy? Optimistic? Do you think it would ever fly?
  • ScottH
    It's Goodes to cheer!!
    • Sep 2003
    • 23665

    #2
    Not this early in his career. Maybe later on.

    but nice theory.

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    • royboy42
      Senior Player
      • Apr 2006
      • 2077

      #3
      Not crazy, except the best ruck in the comp is moved out of position. One of those theories that look good on paper..Not a coach in AFL would even consider it..Robbing Peter etc....

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      • aardvark
        Veterans List
        • Mar 2010
        • 5685

        #4
        Originally posted by royboy42
        Not crazy, except the best ruck in the comp is moved out of position. One of those theories that look good on paper..Not a coach in AFL would even consider it..Robbing Peter etc....
        I think Sandilands might still hold that title but Mummy is there abouts. I do like the idea of him spending time at FF. He does bring back memories of the great man.

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        • GongSwan
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2009
          • 1362

          #5
          thats a joke right? move our number 1 ruck out of position? Fair enough send him down there for a rest, but play Pyke or Seaby, horses for courses type of thing, when Reid fills out more he might go to the goal square
          You can't argue with a sick mind - Joe Walsh

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          • Dosser
            Just wild about Harry
            • Mar 2011
            • 1833

            #6
            Originally posted by GongSwan
            thats a joke right? move our number 1 ruck out of position? Fair enough send him down there for a rest, but play Pyke or Seaby, horses for courses type of thing, when Reid fills out more he might go to the goal square
            Not a joke - simply food for thought. While it is great to have such a good ruckman, games are still won by kicking goals.

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            • Bas
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 4457

              #7
              Originally posted by Dosser
              Not a joke - simply food for thought. While it is great to have such a good ruckman, games are still won by kicking goals.
              I'd like to see Mummy play the same role that Spider played for St Kilda. Ruck then resting forward. However, he is very mobile around the ground and if it ain't broke don't change it.
              In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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              • swansrule100
                The quarterback
                • May 2004
                • 4538

                #8
                where mummy wants to play is a factor to consider too, he looks like he loves being in the middle in the thick of it.
                Theres not much left to say

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                • dimelb
                  pr. dim-melb; m not f
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 6889

                  #9
                  Mummy plus Pyke is not just a formidable ruck combination, they are both dangerous up forward too. But the Mumster is first and foremost a ruckman.
                  He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                  • Big Al
                    Veterans List
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 7007

                    #10
                    While he's at the peak of his powers as a Ruckman and with the continued improvement of Pyke i'd do exactly what Bas suggests and rest both Ruckamn in the forward line while the other ones on the ball. Both will need close attention by the opposition defence which will free up the smaller forwards.
                    ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

                    Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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                    • Ratna
                      Warming the Bench
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 166

                      #11
                      What Big Al said

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                      • R-1
                        Senior Player
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 1042

                        #12
                        Mummy's a monster on the ball with his tackling and his marking a kick behind the play. As a pinch-hitting part-time forward, sure that works, but a full-time move wastes some of his key upsides.

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                        • laughingnome
                          Amateur Statsman
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 1624

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Big Al
                          While he's at the peak of his powers as a Ruckman and with the continued improvement of Pyke i'd do exactly what Bas suggests and rest both Ruckamn in the forward line while the other ones on the ball. Both will need close attention by the opposition defence which will free up the smaller forwards.
                          Originally posted by R-1
                          Mummy's a monster on the ball with his tackling and his marking a kick behind the play. As a pinch-hitting part-time forward, sure that works, but a full-time move wastes some of his key upsides.
                          Agree with these. Mummy in the ruck, Pyke resting forward. Switch when Mummy needs a rest.
                          10100111001 ;-)

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