Changes for Rnd 10 v Roos (LJ to debut!)

[Big Al]

And furthermore, we are playing ugly football!

Just need the fat controller to have a go and it'll be like deja vu all over again. ( thanks Yogi Berra)

[Snake]

I think we should drop LRT,Kennelly and Reid.

Lrt isnt in our best back 6 at the moment and theres no way he should be playing as anything other than a defender.
Kennelly although looking ok when he had it yesterday is looking old and isnt accountable enough on the turnover,his direct opponents had big games yesterday.I'd rather see a young guy like Rohan or Smith playing the running HB role with Mal.
Reid although he's been pretty good needs a rest i feel.His body isnt upto it yet and in the last couple of games he's taken maybe 2 marks early and then fades out,time to rest him for a week or two.

In-Currie If he has a youth policy then horse needs to play Currie before Seeby.
White-No matter what others may think to me he's a ten times better option than LRT up forward or around the ground.
TDL-Give him some games now,no point waitng to the end of season,if he's not good enough to play at his age he needs to be moved on at years end,same with Moore and Bevan.

%100 agree.

OUT: Jetta (this guy is deadset crap at the moment, to easily pushed of the ball)
IN: White (if we dont put the games into him and leave him at FF, then adios)

[GongSwan]

I did say "risk" losing a few games, in order to get game time into players who need experience, if anyone thinks seriously, we are going to beat Collingwood, Geelong, Hawthorn and maybe even Carlton on the form we have showed so far, you're kidding. We need to set our sights a bit further down the road, like Richmond did, which is now starting to pay off. Goodes, ROK, Jude, a year or 2 left in them, where are the senior players coming from to step into that gap? It doesn't mean we don't try, which the commentators yesterday insinuated, and at tomes it did look a very poor effort, there's right now and there's the future, Roos took three years to get to a flag with a young group, they developed, as will some of our younger players IF they are given games in the seniors to learn tp play senior footy. The way we play footy is very demanding on the players, and as someone else said, we need a plan b when we don't get to play the type of contested footy we want to. This aint 2005, we don't have a Barry Hall or MOL or a Brett Kirk, really we have one forward in Reid who has played a handful of games. LRT is a defender Horse, pretty good one, play him there and find someone to put in the forward line. Few people bagging Bevo on here but he works bloody hard to get his hands on the ball. Can we possibly be missing JAck that much?

[Panttz]

Long time creeper, first time poster. haha

What about pushing Grundy up to the forward line? He did spend a lot of time up there early on in his career didn't he? Surely a better option than Mattner.
Agreed that LRT needs to be spending a lot more time in the back line. If Grundy doesnt go forward the only real spot for him is LJ's. A shame but LRT is was a pretty reliable defender before his injuries.

[On-Baller]

Long time creeper, first time poster. haha

What about pushing Grundy up to the forward line? He did spend a lot of time up there early on in his career didn't he? Surely a better option than Mattner.
Agreed that LRT needs to be spending a lot more time in the back line. If Grundy doesnt go forward the only real spot for him is LJ's. A shame but LRT is was a pretty reliable defender before his injuries.

Couldnt agree more with your thinking on Grundy and said so a few weeks back in another thread,his disposal is ordinary and i guess some will say we have enough trouble kicking accurately for goal,but most of Grundys skill errors are when he's on the run and or under pressure,maybe he's set shots may not be as bad,who knows but its certainly worth a look and like Bevo id much rather see him making errors up at our end of the ground rather than in front of the oppositions goals,and even Teddy going thru there occasionally would be worth the effort as well.The most valuable players now with the sub and shortened bench are those that can play more than one role.

[ernie koala]

Out: LRT, In :Seaby.... Mummy needs another ruckman/ forward to help him out, he's starting to look tired.
Out: Everitt, In : LJ.....Could only be an improvement on yesterdays effort from Incy.
Out : Jetta, In: TDL..... We need some goal kickers up forward, come on Horse...It's time!
Sub : McVeigh or Shaw....I'll say it again, a woeful chose as captain. Horse has tied his own hands but needs to be strong and at least sub him...He's not playing anywhere near the level required of a captain
Parker......Give the guy a game !

[Hartijon]

No surprise that Mummy is looking tired. Are they seriously thinking that he can play that hard that long all year without backup ruckman support? Ever played in the ruck Horse? Ok Pyke getting injured stopped a good move but the concept was still good.Seaby should have automatically come in.

TDL : Nice to see him kicking 7 in the reserves. Still can't play in the ones because his defensive pressure is not good enough. His defensive skills might cost us a goal.Forget the fact his attacking skills might get us another 5-6 goals! His non selection is real negative stuff,just like our current game style. We are Ugly again!

Clanger merchants: Shaw is trying to take Bevan's place as our number one clanger merchant and his poor disposal had us giving The Hawks a couple of goals while Reg's appalling disposal gave them another couple. Thats almost what we lost the game by. Once again i would promote Shaw as the sub and don't have a problem with keeping LRT but moving Reg to the forwards. Everitt still not in my best 22 and would rather see LJ there.

Parker for Jetta seems a swap which would give us more. Lastly the boys were not psychologically up to the game particularly after 1/2 time. Whatever was done during the 1/2 time break don't do it again! Furthermore,confiscate their mobile phones.It worked for the Hawks.

[Far Reach]

Long time creeper, first time poster. haha

What about pushing Grundy up to the forward line? He did spend a lot of time up there early on in his career didn't he? Surely a better option than Mattner.
Agreed that LRT needs to be spending a lot more time in the back line. If Grundy doesnt go forward the only real spot for him is LJ's. A shame but LRT is was a pretty reliable defender before his injuries.

Last year-from memory-one of the assistant coaches said on radio that they wanted to give him another go forward - but couldn?t because of injuries to KP defenders. Seems we may have enough now.

[Gezball]

Bevan has usually been worth his place as a forward.The problem is the coaches. They can't resist putting him back to a defensive position.There he gives us all heart failure with his clangers. If he was put in a forward pocket and KEPT there I am sure he would contribute well.

so true... they just can't help themselves..

[Peace]

Tadhg has hit the nail on the head - http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1226061458142

Jetta needs to go work on his defensive game in the two's, once he builds his tackling and ball pressure, his offensive game will become a lot better naturally. Man i wish Rohan was ready to come back in.

[Nich]

I don't know if it was coincidence or not but after Jetta went off the Hawks came out of their 50 even more easy than before. We also looked so slow it wasn't funny. It was like we had this massive hole on the wing and no-one knew how to plug it. Maybe it was just an optical illusion and paranoia but you really noticed when he wasn't there, which is strange because I was calling for him to be dropped as well.

When Rohan comes back in we need to groom him to play more forward. Just reading articles on Folau from GWS I can see the parallel that Gary is an attacking player. Not a player that wants to be shadowing an offensive player. He is one of the best young kicks around and it's worth giving him more game time in a Stevie J type role. Now that Nick Mal and Tadhg are back and Alex is doing well it's time to leave Gary up front. It's a damn shame he is injured because he will have to come back through the 2's now and probably only get a crack at a utility type role again. He's young though - plenty of time I guess.

[Gezball]

Longmire should confiscate the player's phones, computers and anything electronic they own.

[Bleed Red Blood]

Jetta needs to go work on his defensive game in the two's, once he builds his tackling and ball pressure, his offensive game will become a lot better naturally. Man i wish Rohan was ready to come back in.

I reckon Jetta is a victim of high expectations. He's not getting much help from his fellow midfielders, but still contributes imo. And why does he need to build his tackling, pressure? That's not what we recruited him for.

[Plugger46]

I reckon Jetta is a victim of high expectations. He's not getting much help from his fellow midfielders, but still contributes imo. And why does he need to build his tackling, pressure? That's not what we recruited him for.

I actually think his tackling and chasing is pretty good anyway. He's not going to be a clearance machine and win a heap of contested footy, that's not his go and we don't want him doing that anyway.

It's his finishing and the blazing away that annoys me. I wouldn't drop him though.

[jono2707]

I actually think his tackling and chasing is pretty good anyway. He's not going to be a clearance machine and win a heap of contested footy, that's not his go and we don't want him doing that anyway.

It's his finishing and the blazing away that annoys me. I wouldn't drop him though.

What do you mean? You'd think he's kicked a whole heap of behinds in his career to date or something....

I actually agree in your point that his work off the ball is pretty good - not strong bodied stuff but chasing and harrassing. One of the things the Hawks had on us was pace and dropping Lewis wont fix that.

I'm also getting a bit sick of the whole 'throw them down back to learn the game' thing -some guys are natural attacking players and we should be playing them as such. And some guys (i.e. LRT) are vert accomplished defenders and belong down back. We shouldn't tinker with these things too much.

TDL would be a good in for mine - also time to see Johnston I reckon. Dunno who to drop though - I've leave that to the experts...