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  • Bleed Red Blood
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2003
    • 2057

    #31
    Just on Goodes' disposal, anyone recall a moment from the first quarter, where he went in, won the clearance and running towards our goal.. As someone who'd been playing forward most of the year, you'd think he'd have some idea of where a player would be leading too. But it was just kick and hope, into the pocket, throw in. :/

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    • Bloody Hell
      Senior Player
      • Oct 2006
      • 3085

      #32
      Originally posted by Matt79
      From the time McVeigh was elected captain I have been left slightly bewildered. He is a good player but certainly not a great player. A captain also IMO needs to be consistent, McVeigh certainly has yet to fall into that catergory at any time in his career.
      +1...and

      IMO a captain needs to be one of 2 things (or both), besides the obvious of being a leader:

      1. A GREAT player

      2. Be prepared to die for the team

      Players like Mitchell (when captain) or Maxwell aren't greats, but lead by example. For a team like the Swans this attribute must be compulsory....I don't get the feeling McVeigh or Goodes would knowingly split their heads open if required. Thinking back though past captains, there's definately a pattern that these guys don't fit.
      The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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      • ScottH
        It's Goodes to cheer!!
        • Sep 2003
        • 23665

        #33
        Drop the ball when running into goal at a critical stage of the game. #fail.
        Miss the tackle whilst trying to make up for the #fail. #doublefail.

        Smacking your fist into your palm, thens hangs head inshame!! #notcaptainmaterial.

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        • Bloody Hell
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2006
          • 3085

          #34
          Jack and Nick Smith.

          Nice message.
          The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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          • Panttz
            Warming the Bench
            • May 2011
            • 231

            #35
            How many good things did McVeigh do today? How many very bad things did he do?

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            • Triple B
              Formerly 'BBB'
              • Feb 2003
              • 6999

              #36
              McVeigh was far from our worst captain out there today...
              Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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              • RogueSwan
                McVeigh for Brownlow
                • Apr 2003
                • 4602

                #37
                Originally posted by Panttz
                How many good things did McVeigh do today? How many very bad things did he do?
                1 good - hands on the ball in the goal square to stop a certain goal.
                well, let's see... he had 23 disposals and they probably weren't all bad, so about 15 bad things.
                I am very reluctant to single out poor footballers, but Macca's game yesterday was very ordinary. He just seemed to fumble every time the ball came near him. He kicked a nice goal though, so make that two good things.
                "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                • Bloody Hell
                  Senior Player
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3085

                  #38
                  Originally posted by RogueSwan
                  1 good - hands on the ball in the goal square to stop a certain goal.
                  well, let's see... he had 23 disposals and they probably weren't all bad, so about 15 bad things.
                  I am very reluctant to single out poor footballers, but Macca's game yesterday was very ordinary. He just seemed to fumble every time the ball came near him. He kicked a nice goal though, so make that two good things.
                  Possibly the best small forward in the team, in a team without much of a forward structure.

                  Would love to see him told, as "Captain" that the F50 is his, and he is responsible for everything that happens therein.
                  The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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                  • ernie koala
                    Senior Player
                    • May 2007
                    • 3251

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Bloody Hell
                    Possibly the best small forward in the team, in a team without much of a forward structure.

                    Would love to see him told, as "Captain" that the F50 is his, and he is responsible for everything that happens therein.
                    I agree with this, and would go a step further by having him tag the oppositions best running defender.
                    Tell him to concentrate on this role alone.
                    Also pick up the body language and stop berating his fellow team mates if the ball isn't delivered to him on a silver platter.
                    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                    • RogueSwan
                      McVeigh for Brownlow
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 4602

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Bloody Hell
                      Possibly the best small forward in the team, ....
                      After Benny, obviously
                      "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                      • AnnieH
                        RWOs Black Sheep
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 11332

                        #41
                        McShudder. I've been cruising around Sydney at a 10km minimum over the speed limit!!

                        Jude Bolton should have been made captain. Who cares if the political thing was to give it to a New South Welshman - we're not that parochial. If you want someone who leads by example, Jude would have been a much better candidate.
                        Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                        Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                        • aardvark
                          Veterans List
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 5685

                          #42
                          Originally posted by AnnieH
                          McShudder. I've been cruising around Sydney at a 10km minimum over the speed limit!!
                          Jude Bolton should have been made captain. Who cares if the political thing was to give it to a New South Welshman - we're not that parochial. If you want someone who leads by example, Jude would have been a much better candidate.
                          I agree.

                          For those who thought Goodsy had bad body language/ attitude on Saturday watch the replay and study the delivery he got from the Mids in the first quarter. It was abominable.

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                          • giant
                            Veterans List
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 4731

                            #43
                            Haven't always been a huge McV fan but in a dark few weeks I think he's been excellent lately. Doing a lot of the 1%ers - smothers, second efforts, shephers etc - that I think sets a great example to the youngsters and they are things that we might not always have associated with him. He's also still my #1 choice for the player I want to have the ball as we're going inside 50. If we can get the ball in the hands of he and Mal more often around the centre watch our inside 50 efficiency sky rocket (of course a forward target who could take a grab wouldn't hurt either).

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                            • aardvark
                              Veterans List
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 5685

                              #44
                              Originally posted by giant
                              If we can get the ball in the hands of he and Mal more often around the centre watch our inside 50 efficiency sky rocket (of course a forward target who could take a grab wouldn't hurt either).
                              Just maybe for once McVeigh could go and get the ball himself....I agree his delivery is good. Oh and Sammy Reid took 9 marks on Saturday. Pretty fair effort for a 19 year old rookie CHF.

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                              • ScottH
                                It's Goodes to cheer!!
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 23665

                                #45
                                Originally posted by AnnieH
                                McShudder. I've been cruising around Sydney at a 10km minimum over the speed limit!!

                                Jude Bolton should have been made captain. Who cares if the political thing was to give it to a New South Welshman - we're not that parochial. If you want someone who leads by example, Jude would have been a much better candidate.
                                I've been saying that for years. Sadly though I think Jude has missed the boat.
                                Maxy was a vic, so that throws your political theory out.

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