Changes for Rnd 13 V Carlton (The Mummy Returns)

[Melbournehammer]

Fwiw there is no way I'd be dropping jetta. we are playing a fast team at the fastest track - I'd have him in and if rohan was available I'd have him there as well.

Its strange because i'm one of seaby's biggest supporters and I also reckon super ted has done really well as a backman and is probably our second best tall defender this year but i reckon I'd be leaving seaby out to allow us to play LRT as a defender on Kreuzer and playing ted forward when kreuzer is on the field and playing forward.

I suspect this will be plan B as you wouldn't easily remove ted from your plan A defence, but it might just happen.

i reckon waite may well play on reid and gibbs on goodes so if we did have another forward who could lead and mark the pill (and I think ted does that far better than LRT can) that might cause them a few problems and super marty always plays well on third talls - maybe he will need to go to walker - who has only got into his run of form by playing as a defensive forward on tadgh last season. i did think at the time we were so busy trying to play marty on him that our defence went a bit pear shaped, but if we made it the out and out matchup it might work.

[Bleed Red Blood]

Perhaps not, but is Mumford going to come up? It may not be wise to play him on the hard Ethihad Stadium ground first up, short of a gallop and against a top team. If Mumford plays then you must play one of LRT or Seaby and neither deserve to be dropped. I see that the best option is to drop a small forward, as they can always swing one of the other small up there if need be. As it is we are playing to Goodes and Reid pretty much as one out targets and we don't seem to get a lot of crumbers to the fall of the ball.

In one breathe you say drop TDL, and then say we don't seem to get enough crumbers to contests. I.e thats what TDL is for, and he will make it. Most of our midfielders if swung forward are going to kick 2 or 3 goals. Where as TDL very well could.

[Scottee]

When you look at the Carlton side it is actually quite big as well as fast. It probably would not hurt to go for a bigger side given the opposition and the form of our bigger players, who can also improve things for the smalls by bringing them into the game. The Swans are blessed with quick big men as well. Playing Goodes in the midfield alternating off the bench with Ted, who reads the play well and has a big tank could work well. Reid and Johnson both appear capable of playing on the wing in the manner that Richo did so successfully a couple of years ago. This leaves the option of the standard players lining up in defence with Grundy and LRT taking the KPPs. Seaby and Mumford could rest at FF and cause problems for Carlton.We would still have enough smalls to cover their attacking small players but they might be hard pressed to stop our bigger players. The only options for players to be dropped appear to be TDL or Jetta on this basis. One or other of these would also be best suited to the Sub. TDL would be my choice because of his proven ability to impact scoring a tad more, although there would not be much between the two of them. Another reason for putting both of these guys at the end of the list is because , despite their speed, stamina and tackling pressure does not appear to be a strong point for either of them.

So the side would be:

Mattner LRT Smith
Malcheski Grundy Kennelly
Goodes Bolton Hannebery
McGlynn Reid O'Keefe
McVeigh Seaby Shaw

Mumford Kennedy Jack

Bird Johnson Richards (TDL)

[swanspant12]

i dont know why we would drop seaby after he was BOG on sunday. If we drop him his form and confidence will go down after such a good performance. Mummy shouldnt be given the job of going straight back into the ruck and battling his knee against carltons ruckman. he should be put in full forward and be given the opportunity to score some goals and then gradually put him in the ruck. I also agree with everyone on jetta. He has so much talent just needs to go in harder and find more of the ball. I also think tdl would shake up carlton on sunday with his optimistic forward leading and if he can kick 3 or 4 goals its a job well done. Also bring goodes and jack into the midfield and make sure Jack is on judd not bloody ROK because he is far too slow for juddy.

[Triple B]

Even Jackson was taking the piss out of Mcveigh for a weak effort early in the game yesterday...not good enough from a captain

Jackson was off the mark.

He definitely struggled but I don't think that was a weak effort.

I do.

Please explain what was weak about McVeigh's effort in the incident that Jackson felt the need to have a say.

Ernie or aardy, either one of you is fine...

[JudesaGun]

I'm not sure who should be dropped, but I'd like to see:-

1. Mumford and Seaby in the side.

2. A forward line with White, Reid and TDL.

If anyone has any suggestions as to how we can make this happen, I?m all ears.

[Hartijon]

Its up to our coaches!

I look at Carlton and then look at us and its going to be a close one! I for one thought we were unlucky to lose to them last time but they have played a lot better since and we have won but played like ...well probably not as good as they have.

There are a myriad of combinations we could employ and I know what I would do but its really up to our coaches

1. Get the boys up for the game ,switched on
2.Have a plan not just to counter them but to kick a winning score
3. Outcoach the Rat during the game

I reckon this one will come down tothe best coaching as there's nothing between the two teams!

[Bleed Red Blood]

I think perhaps Kennelly needs a "rest". Has anyone else noticed how slow he is on the kick-ins? He'll take the maximum amount of time allowed each time. And pretty much the same when he's marked in the back fifty. Eski, Mattner, Shaw, Richards, Grundy, LRT in defense.

[ernie koala]

Please explain what was weak about McVeigh's effort in the incident that Jackson felt the need to have a say.

Ernie or aardy, either one of you is fine...

He ran back with the flight of the ball, near the boundary line, as 2 Richmond players closed in.
He went back half hearted as the ball passed over his head,, with no vigour or intensity, and limply put one hand in the air as he ducked his head expecting contact.
Jackson mocked him by puting one arm in the air, as he sniffed his underarm, mimicking McVeigh.
It was no big deal, just a weak effort. Not good enough from any player let alone your captain.

[Triple B]

He ran back with the flight of the ball, near the boundary line, as 2 Richmond players closed in.
He went back half hearted as the ball passed over his head,, with no vigour or intensity, and limply put one hand in the air as he ducked his head expecting contact.
Jackson mocked him by puting one arm in the air, as he sniffed his underarm, mimicking McVeigh.
It was no big deal, just a weak effort. Not good enough from any player let alone your captain.

It's amazing what u see when u want to see it.

This is how I saw it.

From my vantage point, the ball looked likely to sail over his head to the unmarked Richmond player. The wind may have just held it up a bit, but McVeigh then realised he had a chance to fingertip the ball over the boundary line...which he did.

U see what happened here, u reckon he's a weak bludger and wanted to see it that way so u could whack him, I don't think he's at all weak and saw it as a nice interception and knock out of bounds.

As for the 'head duck', I didn't see that at all. He may have ducked when contacted, but he had already done his job by knocking it OOB.

[Plugger46]

It's amazing what u see when u want to see it.

This is how I saw it.

From my vantage point, the ball looked likely to sail over his head to the unmarked Richmond player. The wind may have just held it up a bit, but McVeigh then realised he had a chance to fingertip the ball over the boundary line...which he did.

U see what happened here, u reckon he's a weak bludger and wanted to see it that way so u could whack him, I don't think he's at all weak and saw it as a nice interception and knock out of bounds.

As for the 'head duck', I didn't see that at all. He may have ducked when contacted, but he had already done his job by knocking it OOB.

That's what I saw.

[ernie koala]

It's amazing what u see when u want to see it.

This is how I saw it.

From my vantage point, the ball looked likely to sail over his head to the unmarked Richmond player. The wind may have just held it up a bit, but McVeigh then realised he had a chance to fingertip the ball over the boundary line...which he did.

U see what happened here, u reckon he's a weak bludger and wanted to see it that way so u could whack him, I don't think he's at all weak and saw it as a nice interception and knock out of bounds.

As for the 'head duck', I didn't see that at all. He may have ducked when contacted, but he had already done his job by knocking it OOB.

There you go, we saw it differently. But obviously Jackson saw it as a weak effort, and he was a lot closer than you or I or Plugger 46.

Now I've got no idea what sort of bloke Jackson is, but I've seen him play a fair bit.

He's a little bit of an antagonist but I've never seen him accuse anyone of a weak effort before this incident. He obviously thinks he saw a weak effort.

Maybe he's wrong and I'm wrong but that's how I saw it too.

[Nico]

In one breathe you say drop TDL, and then say we don't seem to get enough crumbers to contests. I.e thats what TDL is for, and he will make it. Most of our midfielders if swung forward are going to kick 2 or 3 goals. Where as TDL very well could.

I said drop TDL because he is not prepared to put his body on the line. We are playing a top 4 side and we don't need that weakness up forward. If you must replace a crumber with a crumber, then, as I said put someone else there who will give a hard contest.

[Peace]

From what i have seen of Jackson on various panel shows, he has got tickets on himself. He was just being a smartass, McVeigh couldn't have reached any higher.

[nomae]

If I can do whatever I want this week I'd:

Mattner LRT Smith
Malcheski Grundy Kennelly
Shaw Jack Hannebery
McGlynn Reid O'Keefe
McVeigh White TDL
Mumford Kennedy Goodes

Seaby Bird Johnson Jetta

Mattner LRT Smith
Malcheski Grundy Kennelly
Goodes Bolton Hannebery
McGlynn Reid O'Keefe
McVeigh Seaby Shaw

Mumford Kennedy Jack

Bird Johnson Richards (TDL)

Really guys? Mal-ce-ski