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  • Nico
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 11339

    #76
    Originally posted by ernie koala
    There you go, we saw it differently. But obviously Jackson saw it as a weak effort, and he was a lot closer than you or I or Plugger 46.

    Now I've got no idea what sort of bloke Jackson is, but I've seen him play a fair bit.

    He's a little bit of an antagonist but I've never seen him accuse anyone of a weak effort before this incident. He obviously thinks he saw a weak effort.

    Maybe he's wrong and I'm wrong but that's how I saw it too.
    Jackson gets the odd gig on SEN during the week. I think he is on the players association committee. Comes across as an intelligent sort of bloke who is a blokes, bloke, but blots his copybook by doing the dumb dirty stuff on the ground. Like dropping the elbow into a North player right in front of the camera in the last minute of the game and cops a couple of weeks. I wouldn't be taking too much notice of his gestures.
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    • New-eon Jack
      On the Rookie List
      • Aug 2010
      • 3

      #77
      Selection Team are in an unenviable position and will surely point to match-ups as the reason for unlucky fella(a) will make way for Mummy, as they should.

      *Seaby (BOG-man against the odds) absolutely needs to stay in (i.m.h.o), help ease Mummy back into the ruck and otherwise show how versatile he could be/is. He is an intelligent, experienced, skilled player with real hunger that should be tapped - not ideal to try out too many new tricks against a team like Carl but I would not touch the backline - unless they ask for a rest (which would solve the LRT dilemma). Mattner should never be questioned - his standards are so high that a quieter game stands out and it shouldn't.

      *Macca appears o be slightly burdened with perhaps his own expectations - if he was dropped for one game - chances are he would click and explode in the the next (Collingwad) - i probably wouldnt have the juevos to drop Macca btw...

      *Smooch got toweled by Betts last game but the umps certainly gave Betts a few undeserved cheapies and Smooch is currently untouchable (a.i.m.h.o) - he does so much right. While the Bird-man could be one of the most improved performers so far and is on the up. Both are vital taggers who do not waste the ball when moving forward.

      *TDL to stay (this week) and unsettle Yarran with his exceptional pressure. Important, as Yarran is becoming an elite passing playmaker. If TDL cannot impress (again) that would make way for (....................) - I personally hope to see Pyke again asap.

      *I love Jetts and want to give him as much time as he needs - he IS making tackles here and there this season - impressive ones too - but physicality is not his draw card. I think he is overrunning too many challenges - so his timing could definitely improve - Even Goodsey had this issue against North.

      So in conclusion: LRT the unlucky out pending the Seaby experiment. I think they are competing for the same role (As long as the backline chemistry remains intact). If Seaby cannot co-exist in a 21 with Mummy - then he is, I would say, an unfortunate victim of the rule changes and deserves a chance at another club.
      *Jack and Jetts to swap this week- Jetts as sub.
      *Pyke to push back quickly - his improvements have been spectacular. Rohan also, but don't ask me for who.
      *Jessie White will need to challenge Reid directly on form to regain his role - which would mean continuation of solid res form and one would think a collapse in form from Reid - which I aint predicting.

      It is hotter than I have ever seen - the push for a first's game - i feel for the likes of Bevo and Jarrad Moore - who face a long road to reclaiming their place - that is the price one pays playing for a Legend team with pioneering development strategies!

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      • Cardinal
        Regular in the Side
        • Sep 2008
        • 932

        #78
        I suppose my question is if I was part of Carlton's coaching team would I be wiser or more confused having read this thread ?

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        • Auntie.Gerald
          Veterans List
          • Oct 2009
          • 6480

          #79
          I think LRT can ruck with mummy despite Seaby having a very good game on the wknd against Richmond..............on a bigger field we can NOT have Seaby, LRT and Mummy in the rotation unless LRT takes over a permanent backline spot..........Seaby for me needs to drop out of the 22 if Mummy is ready
          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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          • Bleed Red Blood
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2003
            • 2057

            #80
            Originally posted by Nico
            I said drop TDL because he is not prepared to put his body on the line. We are playing a top 4 side and we don't need that weakness up forward. If you must replace a crumber with a crumber, then, as I said put someone else there who will give a hard contest.
            Well I watched the game too, and I didn't question his effort. And nor would I be giving up on someone with unquestioned talent two games in to the year.

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            • Bas
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 4457

              #81
              Originally posted by nomae
              Really guys? Mal-ce-ski
              Who? Malsexy?
              In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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              • Matt79
                Bring it on!
                • Sep 2004
                • 3143

                #82
                Geez, I have been pumped and booked for this game for some time. Flying down Friday for the weekend. The ash can nick off please.
                Swannies for life!

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                • Go Swannies
                  Veterans List
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 5697

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Nico
                  I said drop TDL because he is not prepared to put his body on the line. We are playing a top 4 side and we don't need that weakness up forward. If you must replace a crumber with a crumber, then, as I said put someone else there who will give a hard contest.
                  Since Nicky D left we have bemoaning the absence of a smart goal sneak in the team. Gopher is a bit more useful around the ground than a dedicated forward. Vez is gone and we have TDL - smarter than anyone we've had in that role for years. With him in the team we are so much more dangerous going forward (in fact, when he was out we weren't dangerous at all) and we're very unpredictable. I bet Rattan is hoping he's dropped. TDL may not be doing much in defence - one of the claims against Nick, as well as disrupting the team, but he will be a vital player to win us games at the business end of the year.

                  Incidentally, does anyone remember his last game against the Blues - he was handy that night?

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                  • nomae
                    Regular in the Side
                    • May 2006
                    • 523

                    #84
                    Didnt catch the first half on Sunday, when did this McVeigh/Jackson incident occur?

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                    • Goal Sneak
                      Out of Bounds on the Full
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 653

                      #85
                      I think it's important for Mumford to get some game time this week before the Collingwood game. That said, he's gonna need some help from Seaby, who would be very unlucky to get dropped after that performance. Seaby can offer just as much, if not more than LRT in the forward line, and I don't think we need any help in the backline right now which is why LRT can't get a spot there. I guess what I'm trying to say is that as a ruck/forward, Seaby has it all over LRT. I like LRT but someone has to make way.

                      I wouldn't be dropping TDL just yet. I think he gives us a bit of agility in the forward 50. He can put himself in the right position but requires quality passes to take advantage.

                      Jetta is a work in progress. He does need some time but it will be worth it.

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                      • Slade
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 11

                        #86
                        The main question that I see for this game is who is going to take Judd. He has carved us up in recent times and needs to be stopped. Jack had him last game and did pretty well until his injury but I prefer Jack to have a more attacking role rather than a defensive one. I think that Shaw should be given a go - he has the leg speed, can tackle, has the mongrel needed to fight through Judds blockers and he is great running off his opponent. Another option would be to put Jack on him for the first half and Shaw for the second (or vice versa) which is when Judd is at his best.

                        As for who is going to get dropped - that is one of the problems we have because we have so many options. For team balance I think a straight Mummy/LRT swap would be the best as it keeps our speed. Although I am not a big fan of Jetta as he does not run hard enough I do not see who we would drop him for - Moore/Bevan - I can't see it happening. Rohan would be ideal but he needs to play some games in the reserves first.

                        Big Mike will have a week or two in the twos before he is ready to come back in again so will Jesse.

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                        • BlueRay
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 10

                          #87
                          It's not just Judd you have to worry about now, which has helped us get better. Robinson, Ellard and Curnow have been helping out and are all in great form, Murphy has been white hot of late, in fact the final against you guys last season is when a flick seemed to be switched. Yarrans attack of half back, Jamisons control of the back half with Russell and Duigan really providing support.

                          Carlton is no longer a one man band we have had a team contribution for several weeks now to the point where Judd is just looking like another player in the team rather than the stand out he has been for the past couple of seasons.

                          You guys have two players we will struggle to stop however Goodes and Mumford. If those guys get on top we're in trouble.

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                          • blinddog
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 349

                            #88
                            Mummy for LRT, that is the change I would be making. Then place him in the goal square, he brings it down TDL goals - all happy
                            One vege patch at a time

                            Looking for a beer? Look here,

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                            • ScottH
                              It's Goodes to cheer!!
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 23665

                              #89
                              Curnow is in his 3rd game back from injury, and has inmproved in wach game. He was a gun before that injury. So ti will be a matter of shutting down a few players. With Jack, and hopefully Mummy back we can get some midfield dominance happening. Will be tougher than the last 3 weeks.

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                              • aardvark
                                Veterans List
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 5685

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Triple B
                                It's amazing what u see when u want to see it.

                                This is how I saw it.

                                From my vantage point, the ball looked likely to sail over his head to the unmarked Richmond player. The wind may have just held it up a bit, but McVeigh then realised he had a chance to fingertip the ball over the boundary line...which he did.

                                U see what happened here, u reckon he's a weak bludger and wanted to see it that way so u could whack him, I don't think he's at all weak and saw it as a nice interception and knock out of bounds.

                                As for the 'head duck', I didn't see that at all. He may have ducked when contacted, but he had already done his job by knocking it OOB.
                                I saw it as EK did and believe me its not what I wanted to see. I only "Whack" people who deserve it and I don't watch games through red and white goggles like some others. I give credit where credit is due.

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