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  • wolftone57
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2008
    • 5857

    Originally posted by Melbournehammer
    Fwiw there is no way I'd be dropping jetta. we are playing a fast team at the fastest track - I'd have him in and if rohan was available I'd have him there as well.

    Its strange because i'm one of seaby's biggest supporters and I also reckon super ted has done really well as a backman and is probably our second best tall defender this year but i reckon I'd be leaving seaby out to allow us to play LRT as a defender on Kreuzer and playing ted forward when kreuzer is on the field and playing forward.

    I suspect this will be plan B as you wouldn't easily remove ted from your plan A defence, but it might just happen.

    i reckon waite may well play on reid and gibbs on goodes so if we did have another forward who could lead and mark the pill (and I think ted does that far better than LRT can) that might cause them a few problems and super marty always plays well on third talls - maybe he will need to go to walker - who has only got into his run of form by playing as a defensive forward on tadgh last season. i did think at the time we were so busy trying to play marty on him that our defence went a bit pear shaped, but if we made it the out and out matchup it might work.
    How do you work that out??? The Blues will have Walker, Waite, Kruizer/Hampson(don't know if you've seen him lately, dangerous) & O'hAilpin in the forward line. Take Teddy out & put LRT back that still leaves us 1 tall short & who is going to relieve Mummy? LRT from Centre Half Back or Back Pocket? Hampson has been murdering oposition backs with his high pack marking & he is a great kick at goal. 4 out of 6 forwards for the Bluebaggers are talls, 2 crumbers with wingers & midfielders to back up. Tht's how they play.

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    • wolftone57
      Veterans List
      • Aug 2008
      • 5857

      waite has been playing forward

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      • Danzar
        I'm doing ok right now, thanks
        • Jun 2006
        • 2027

        Originally posted by jono2707
        I don't see why you would call Jets lazy - I think he puts in a decent effort but does not have the physicality to get down and dirty with the in-and-unders. He's a young guy who's still developing and I don't think it's correct to label him as lazy.
        Sorry Jono, I just don't agree. Whilst at no point have I suggested we drop him, I think the effort he's putting in is below par. If you have a alook at the criticism that's usually laid on Jetta, it consistently points to one thing - lazy.

        "Goes missing for lengthy periods in the game, wont ever get the hard ball, opposition players break his tackles a little bit too easy" = lazy.

        "..just needs to go in harder and find more of the ball" = lazy.

        He tends to lurk around the contest waiting for a loose ball rather than getting in there and creating the opportunities. Yes, I know he's not yet developed, but that's not a prime excuse for just standing there and letting what are exceptional ball skills go to waste.

        His level of intensity, use of his speed, tackling and overall performance around the contest is far below what it was when we first saw him last year.

        To me, that is laziness.
        Captain, I am detecting large quantities of win in this sector

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        • wolftone57
          Veterans List
          • Aug 2008
          • 5857

          Originally posted by Red
          Much as I hate to say it, perhaps Malceski out for Mummy?

          If height & speed are Carlton's great strengths, poor old Mal is not looking like much of a counter for either right now. He's been brilliant for such a short recovery time, but he looks a litle slow lately and has been pinged HTB a few times.

          His knee certainly wouldn't complain about a week off.
          Mal's delivery is super & we look better for it. Not Mal!

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          • wolftone57
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2008
            • 5857

            Originally posted by Go Swannies
            I'd be dialling bus companies about now. I can't work out why so many here have given up on this game, unless you think we aren't playing any better than we were seven rounds ago?

            And if we roll over against the Blues, with one more win than us and a recent finals loss to us then maybe we could send the whole team to Colorado instead of even bothering to turn up against the Pies the week after.

            Most of my moments of pure joy - and the games I can watch over and over again - are when the team stands up and wins the "unwinnable". The Lions at the Gabba, Port at AAMI come to mind. The Blues are just the opening act. Beat the Pies the following week - and/or the Cats at Skilled - and we have a season to remember. If you don't think that a team that's fifth on the ladder should be aiming to do that, why bother following the team at all? That's a question, not an attack. If I didn't have at least a hope that we'd win each week (and tip that way) then I'd give up on the team.
            We have to beat the sides in the top 4 to win in the finals & I haven't given this game up. I think we are a good chance, Rat is not a great coach, neither is Horse?, they have the cattle but so do we. I think our side is developing quite nicely & we a a far better side than we were at the start of the season.

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            • royboy42
              Senior Player
              • Apr 2006
              • 2078

              I'm going to stick up for a few guys here. I thought Irish's kick-ins last week were as good as he gets. More than half were kicks to himself gaining ten meters immediately, and then to the fifty or beyond. The dibby dabby defensive kick to the player in the pocket is no longer a guaranteed kick-in technique with us as it has been for too long.
              The suggestion that Eski would benefit from a week off seems just ludicrous to me. Why? His kicking is about as good as it has ever been..he slipped a goal with his wrong foot last week, and he clears the ball so cleanly from defence. That suggestion bamboozles me.
              Jetta lurking round the packs is not a bad thing..that's what an outside player does. If he takes his 70 or whatever kgs in there, he ain't coming out alive, much less with the ball under his arm. that's why teams have the Kennedys and the Boltons. He is a work in progress.
              I'm not a blind suppoterr who can see no wrong, but iI do like to see respect paid to men who are busting their butts for us out there.

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              • Dan
                Warming the Bench
                • Oct 2010
                • 338

                In: Mumford
                Out: LRT
                Sub: Jetta

                Tough for LRT but we need Mumford to beat the better sides, but mummy needs help from someone who can actually ruck that's why Seaby stays. I also think Mumford is probably better target resting up forward than LRT. TDL stays because since he has come back our forward line actually resembles something that can score (smashed Brisbane and 31 scoring shots last week). Jetta as the sub because his pace could be very handy in the dying stages if he just gets the ball and runs and runs and runs.
                I See It But I Don't Believe It!!!!

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                • Red
                  Foreign Correspondent
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 651

                  I'm a huge Mal fan, and I know it sounds stupid. But if the idea is that we don't want to lose any pace or height, then who else?

                  The other suggestions so far are either tall or quick(ish).
                  To all those people who waited 72 years to see a South Melbourne/Sydney Swans premiership HERE IT IS!!

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                  • Nico
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 11339

                    Blakey was on SEN just after 12 today and said Mumford was playing. He also spoke well of Malceski so I reckon any suggestion he should be rested can be put to bed. He said it was a dilema now that Seaby was in form. Reading between the lines; both Seaby and Mumford will play. He gave absolutely no indication of who might be dropped.
                    http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                    • ShockOfHair
                      One Man Out
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 3668

                      Huge dilemma between LRT and Seaby. I expect it will be decided on who matches up better. No idea myself.

                      I'd go for Jetta as 22nd man. He was a game-breaker against North.

                      As for dropping Mel - that's as ludicrous as his previous haircut.
                      The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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                      • Red
                        Foreign Correspondent
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 651

                        Originally posted by ShockOfHair
                        As for dropping Mel - that's as ludicrous as his previous haircut.
                        Ouch -- that's pretty ludicrous
                        To all those people who waited 72 years to see a South Melbourne/Sydney Swans premiership HERE IT IS!!

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                        • Aaron
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 805

                          My preference will be more talls
                          OUT : Jetta
                          IN: Mummy
                          RLT as sub

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                          • dimelb
                            pr. dim-melb; m not f
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 6889

                            Originally posted by Danzar
                            Sorry Jono, I just don't agree. Whilst at no point have I suggested we drop him, I think the effort he's putting in is below par. If you have a alook at the criticism that's usually laid on Jetta, it consistently points to one thing - lazy.

                            "Goes missing for lengthy periods in the game, wont ever get the hard ball, opposition players break his tackles a little bit too easy" = lazy.

                            "..just needs to go in harder and find more of the ball" = lazy.

                            He tends to lurk around the contest waiting for a loose ball rather than getting in there and creating the opportunities. Yes, I know he's not yet developed, but that's not a prime excuse for just standing there and letting what are exceptional ball skills go to waste.

                            His level of intensity, use of his speed, tackling and overall performance around the contest is far below what it was when we first saw him last year.

                            To me, that is laziness.
                            I can think of other possibilities.
                            1. He is trying to follow coaching instructions to be on the spot when the ball comes out.
                            2. He is uncertain about how to meet the new demands being made on him.
                            3. He is still finding his feet at this level when in close contact.
                            4. He is anxious about stuffing up.
                            I dare say there are others I haven't canvassed. But I'd like us to stick with him because he can do things that no-one else on the team can do - e.g. that flying run down the sideline that led to Goodes's goal against North. And he seems to be getting the hang of what to do in close; did you see the neat little goal assist for Joey's Play of the Day? It's on the official site.
                            He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                            • top40
                              Regular in the Side
                              • May 2007
                              • 933

                              Originally posted by Dan
                              In: Mumford
                              Out: LRT
                              Sub: Jetta

                              Tough for LRT but we need Mumford to beat the better sides, but mummy needs help from someone who can actually ruck that's why Seaby stays. I also think Mumford is probably better target resting up forward than LRT. TDL stays because since he has come back our forward line actually resembles something that can score (smashed Brisbane and 31 scoring shots last week). Jetta as the sub because his pace could be very handy in the dying stages if he just gets the ball and runs and runs and runs.
                              I'm no expert, but I would consider a rotation process involving LRT, Mummy and Seaby in the positions of ruck, full forward, and the bench, seems sensible.

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                              • Lucky Knickers
                                Fandom of Fabulousness
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 4220

                                We need a huge game from JPK this weekend. He needs to Juddify Judd a la Q4 in the final last year.
                                Happy for Kizz to take a role but when JPK was slamming his way through everyone we really arrested momentum. We haven't seen a really dominant game like that from him this season. He's been doing some super great stuff but its time for El Bulli to come out.
                                Agree that McVeigh needs to work a bit harder. ROK and Hanners look to be running into very good form.
                                Blues will have a lot to worry about IMO. It's going to be a cracker.

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