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  • wolftone57
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2008
    • 5857

    #16
    Originally posted by Bas
    According to the Telegraph today (which supports what I thought) that Bradshaw signed a 3 year contract for 1.2 mill.

    Doesn't that mean that the money carries over into next year so we actually don't gain any financial advantage? The other option is that they pay him over the first two years for which it worked out that for 9 games he received $133,333 per game. Well that works out same over 3 years as well.

    I can see why there is not much incentive to recover.
    Not if Braddy retires. He doesn't get the money as he didn't complete the contract therefore the money goes back into the slush fund to pay for another player. Under the rules I believe the money gets credited back to our salery cap as he didn't complete the contract & therefore won't be paid this sum.

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    • Primmy
      Proud Tragic Swan
      • Apr 2008
      • 5970

      #17
      Besides which Braddy is a man of integrity, and I trust his ethics.
      If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16773

        #18
        Originally posted by wolftone57
        Not if Braddy retires. He doesn't get the money as he didn't complete the contract therefore the money goes back into the slush fund to pay for another player. Under the rules I believe the money gets credited back to our salery cap as he didn't complete the contract & therefore won't be paid this sum.
        Would depend on how the contract is structured, but generally a player is entitled to be paid his contracted amount, regardless. If he did have a third year on his contract, his retirement will likely trigger this amount to be included in the current year's salary cap. Seems a little odd that this is stipulated, but it is why Voss' career ending injury caused the Lions problems and forced them to keep him on their list for the final year of his contract, despite the fact they knew he wasn't going to play. I suspect it might also be why Fosdike delayed his retirement until the start of 2009 - ie the Swans salary cap for 2008 wouldn't allow him to retire at the end of that year. There is an injury allowance that provides clubs with some relief for a player retiring with another year or more to go on his contract but it isn't unlimited.

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        • Wardy
          The old Boiler!
          • Sep 2003
          • 6676

          #19
          Is Callan Ward off contract from the Dogs this year ? or is he being targeted by GWS?- he seems pretty good (and no relation)
          I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
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          • ScottH
            It's Goodes to cheer!!
            • Sep 2003
            • 23665

            #20
            Originally posted by wardy
            is callan ward off contract from the dogs this year ? Or is he being targeted by gws?- he seems pretty good (and no relation)
            gws.

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            • Wardy
              The old Boiler!
              • Sep 2003
              • 6676

              #21
              Originally posted by ScottH
              gws.
              oh well never mind. stil he is pretty good!
              I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
              Chickens drink - but they don't pee!
              AGE IS ONLY IMPORTANT FOR TWO THINGS - WINE & CHEESE!

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              • bennyfabulous
                Warming the Bench
                • Apr 2009
                • 351

                #22
                Originally posted by wolftone57
                So you would replace a key posie player with a flanker? We are going to have a few KPP's getting to the end of their careers soon, Teddy & LRT, we need to draft a young KPP player
                Its not a direct replacement, its just a player who could add a bit to our team. We have a few KPP prospects in the wings. Plus we would have draft picks and trade possibilities for others if need be.

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                • Doctor
                  Bay 29
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 2757

                  #23
                  Originally posted by wolftone57
                  So you would replace a key posie player with a flanker? We are going to have a few KPP's getting to the end of their careers soon, Teddy & LRT, we need to draft a young KPP player
                  Hmmm, Alex Johnson anyone?

                  I'd like to think we could aim to pick up a key forward an free agency if possible and continue to groom Reid, TDL, White and whoever else we have in mind.
                  Today's a draft of your epitaph

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                  • goswannie14
                    Leadership Group
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 11166

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                    for me I am comfortable with LRT playing a bit upfront at FF as long as we have Goodes and Reid playing upfront as much as possible also

                    Daniel Menzel I think is an extremely dangerous player and although only 188cm he is very hard to mark up on and lethal with the boot.........which would allow us to have Rohan still being groomed to take over Tags role in the future and Menzel upfront !!! to ad lib style players


                    Daniel Menzel Player Profile bio - Official AFL Website of the Geelong Cats Football Club
                    THat would mean I could keep my avatar. I had my photo taken with Dan Menzel, Andrew Bews and a few local Salvos for the Red Shield Appeal. He is a really nice young man, and a pretty decent footballer as well.
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                    • Auntie.Gerald
                      Veterans List
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 6480

                      #25
                      So what would a transaction look like to get

                      Daniel Menzel to the Swans or

                      Tom Scully ?

                      what would we need to give in return?

                      How good is Mitchell I suppose is the big question?.............if he is 4 foot nothing yet incredible in picking up possessions like a Dylan McNeil will he dominate at Senior level ?
                      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                      • Auntie.Gerald
                        Veterans List
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6480

                        #26
                        also I am confused ..............if GWS offer a large amount to Scully........does GWS need to compensate Melbourne to execute the trade ...............ie as GWS are in their first year of football etc ????

                        Imagine if we had :

                        Scully
                        Hannebery
                        Mitchell

                        That would be an extremely high possession young 3 players that could run other teams ragged !
                        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                        • Auntie.Gerald
                          Veterans List
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6480

                          #27
                          I stand corrected he was already 179cm at 16yrs of age.......

                          "The 16-year-old was a standout for WA and was awarded his state's MVP for the tournament.

                          The 179cm midfielder caught the eye with his dash and skill and averaged more than 32 disposals per game against South Australia, Vic Country and Vic Metro, racking up 40 possessions against SA. "

                          incredible stats given Luke PArer who I rate as a real long term in and under player for the Swans was picking up around 20 to 24 possessions - but Luke may have been in the HF line alot as per his videos in the draft etc
                          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                          • Doctor
                            Bay 29
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 2757

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                            also I am confused ..............if GWS offer a large amount to Scully........does GWS need to compensate Melbourne to execute the trade ...............ie as GWS are in their first year of football etc ????
                            At the risk of getting off topic, this article should help explain it. To answer your question specifically, Melbourne receive a compensation pick (or perhaps two) but they receive them from the AFL, not from GWS. They'll be slotted in to the overall draft as additional selections from my reading of it.

                            Today's a draft of your epitaph

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                            • bennyfabulous
                              Warming the Bench
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 351

                              #29
                              Roosy just said on "on the couch" that with a decent forward (Bradshaw) we would be a top 4 side. We must get a KP forward in the trade period this year. Must must must

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                              • Bas
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 4457

                                #30
                                Originally posted by bennyfabulous
                                Roosy just said on "on the couch" that with a decent forward (Bradshaw) we would be a top 4 side. We must get a KP forward in the trade period this year. Must must must
                                The Tomahawk is on the shopping list.

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