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  • Captain
    Captain of the Side
    • Feb 2004
    • 3602

    #76
    I have changed my tune on this one, but would love Fev.

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    • Captain
      Captain of the Side
      • Feb 2004
      • 3602

      #77
      Originally posted by Dan
      He kicked 11 goals this weekend, but probably had no forward pressure so horse wouldn't pick him anyway
      Brilliant!

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16773

        #78
        The VFL isn't a competition the Swans have recruited from recently, despite the successes of Barlow, Crameri (and this year, a couple of Blues players). There are some names on this list that look interesting, including a few with prior AFL experience. A certain outside runner making waves at Werribee caught my eye - exactly the kind of player we are probably missing this year, and one who I did think was stiff not to get more opportunities when he was with us.



        This year's draft is reported to be good at the very top (which GWS will plunder) but very shallow. So from round 3 onwards, maybe even round 2, clubs will probably be looking outside the traditional U18 crop for draftees.
        Last edited by liz; 19 July 2011, 12:43 AM.

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        • R-1
          Senior Player
          • Aug 2005
          • 1042

          #79
          On tanking, there's really not going to be much difference between, say, pick 12 and pick 7, surely. Not worth it.

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          • liz
            Veteran
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 16773

            #80
            Originally posted by R-1
            On tanking, there's really not going to be much difference between, say, pick 12 and pick 7, surely. Not worth it.
            Even if it were normally worth it, it certainly isn't for the Swans this year. In all likelihood our first pick will be used on Tom Mitchell, whether that is pick 4 or pick 25.

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            • ABloodsMan
              On the Rookie List
              • Apr 2011
              • 232

              #81
              Not if we had pick 4. GWS can't bid on father/sons. But since that's impossible we'll be using whatever our first round pick eventually is.

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              • toothy76
                On the Rookie List
                • Jun 2011
                • 73

                #82
                Father son picks used to be later in the draft, but there is a new system which allows other clubs to basically say that they'd like that same player, nominating which pick in the draft they WOULD have used to select him. The club with father son rights then has to use the pick IMMEDIATELY AFTER that of the club that nominated a selection.

                A couple of years back, St Kilda said that they would have used their first pick to select Ayce Cordy, forcing the Bulldogs to use their first round pick to draft him. I think we actually nominated a selection for either Mitch Wallis or Tom Liberatore last year (and another club probably did too) forcing them to use their first two selections. It's basically come in to prevent situations like Geelong drafting Gary Ablett so late in the draft when, if he was available to all, he would have been selected much sooner.

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                • Triple B
                  Formerly 'BBB'
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 6999

                  #83
                  Originally posted by toothy76
                  Father son picks used .......
                  I believe ABM is saying that GWS cannot bid for a father/son selection, therefore, if we had Pick 4 we would keep it because GWS with the first 3 picks are unable to gazump us.

                  Of course, we won't be finishing with the spoon, so it's all a hypothetical anyway.
                  Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                  • Dosser
                    Just wild about Harry
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 1833

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Triple B
                    I believe ABM is saying that GWS cannot bid for a father/son selection, therefore, if we had Pick 4 we would keep it because GWS with the first 3 picks are unable to gazump us.

                    Of course, we won't be finishing with the spoon, so it's all a hypothetical anyway.
                    Yes, but can you imagine a world with no hypotheticals?

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                    • ScottH
                      It's Goodes to cheer!!
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 23665

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Dosser
                      Yes, but can you imagine a world with no hypotheticals?
                      Yes, We wouldn't know who Geoffrey Robertson is.

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                      • nomae
                        Regular in the Side
                        • May 2006
                        • 523

                        #86
                        If we didn't have about 300 half-back flankers I would ask why we got rid of O'Dwyer.

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                        • Mr Magoo
                          Senior Player
                          • May 2008
                          • 1255

                          #87
                          Originally posted by liz
                          The VFL isn't a competition the Swans have recruited from recently, despite the successes of Barlow, Crameri (and this year, a couple of Blues players). There are some names on this list that look interesting, including a few with prior AFL experience. A certain outside runner making waves at Werribee caught my eye - exactly the kind of player we are probably missing this year, and one who I did think was stiff not to get more opportunities when he was with us.



                          This year's draft is reported to be good at the very top (which GWS will plunder) but very shallow. So from round 3 onwards, maybe even round 2, clubs will probably be looking outside the traditional U18 crop for draftees.
                          Odwyer was always one player whose lack of opportunity in the firsts was a mystery to me. He always looked good when given an opportunity in the firsts . I would love to have known why the coaches firstly didnt give him more opportunities and then chose to delist him.

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                          • Dosser
                            Just wild about Harry
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1833

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Mr Magoo
                            Odwyer was always one player whose lack of opportunity in the firsts was a mystery to me. He always looked good when given an opportunity in the firsts . I would love to have known why the coaches firstly didnt give him more opportunities and then chose to delist him.
                            This.

                            Being in sunny Melbourne, I only get limited chances to see our ressies (ie NAB cup), but when I saw him collect a bagful of possessions in one game and then perform quite well in the season proper (I think, from my faded memory) I had him earmarked as a future player. Whatever happened?

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                            • ugg
                              Can you feel it?
                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15970

                              #89
                              It was hinted at in some newspaper articles that his off-field work and preparation wasn't as good as the Swans would have liked.
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                              • jono2707
                                Goes up to 11
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 3326

                                #90
                                Originally posted by ugg
                                It was hinted at in some newspaper articles that his off-field work and preparation wasn't as good as the Swans would have liked.
                                And because our Ressies don't play in a decent competition we have no other way of judging them apart from their off-field work and preparation....

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