Perception of the SCG

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  • SPC
    Pushing for Selection
    • Jan 2011
    • 95

    Perception of the SCG

    Different size of AFL ovals compared to the MCG

    They did this comparison a while ago on AFL Insider of the sizes of each AFL playing surface compared to the MCG as the base model.

    I found it surprising that the SCG is almost always referred to as a very small AFL ground (compared to the MCG), but when you look at these figures, from the centre bounce its only 4m shorter than the MCG to kick a goal and only 2.5m closer to the boundary. Maybe the actual size difference may 'look' much larger due to the bigger stands at the MCG?

    MCG is 160m long and 141m wide.

    AAMI: +5m length, -8m width
    Aurora: +10m length, -1m width
    Gabba: -4m length, -3m width
    Etihad: -0.5m length, -12.2m width
    SCG: -8.5m length, -5m width
    Skilled: +10m length, -26m width
    Subiaco: +15m length, -19m width

    Disclaimer - I havent actually run the tape over each of the grounds, just using figures AFL Insider produced.
  • R-1
    Senior Player
    • Aug 2005
    • 1042

    #2
    I think the SCG used to be shorter?

    Really though, my maths isn't great but it seems like ANZ, Subiaco and Skilled, with their narrowness, would have similar or even smaller surface areas.

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    • Teasdale77
      On the Rookie List
      • Sep 2005
      • 66

      #3
      This got me curious as to how the grounds measured up by area. Unfortunately, the grounds aren't the same shaped ellipses with some having squarish pockets, so it isn't possible to calculate without an aerial view in perfect perspective.

      Also, the measurements given appear to be the size of the ground to the fence in some cases (Subiaco) and the size of the field of play in others (AAMI measures the fence boundary as a much, much bigger 177m x 145m according to wiki).

      Still, here are the numbers for comparision using a standard geometrical ellipse*

      MCG is 160m long and 141m wide = 70,874 square metres

      Aurora: +10m length, -1m width = 74,770
      MCG = 70,874
      AAMI: +5m length, -8m width = 68,942
      Gabba: -4m length, -3m width = 67,632
      Subiaco: +15m length, -19m width = 67,073
      SCG: -8.5m length, -5m width = 66,871
      Etihad: -0.5m length, -12.2m width = 64,540
      Skilled: +10m length, -26m width = 61,418

      I suspect the SCG's deep pockets make it bigger than the 3 grounds above it but honestly I think I wasted my time due to skewed source numbers and irregularly shaped grounds. SCG still looks bloody small to me


      * In geometry, an ellipse is a regular oval shape, traced by a point moving in a plane so that the sum of its distances from two other points (the foci) is constant, or resulting when a cone is cut by an oblique plane that does not intersect the base (get that up ya!)

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      • Nich
        Senior Player
        • May 2010
        • 1291

        #4
        Originally posted by Teasdale77

        * In geometry, an ellipse is a regular oval shape, traced by a point moving in a plane so that the sum of its distances from two other points (the foci) is constant, or resulting when a cone is cut by an oblique plane that does not intersect the base (get that up ya!)
        I got half way through this sentence and my head exploded.

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        • Cheer Squad
          Sydney Swans
          • Apr 2007
          • 1948

          #5
          It's not the size that counts, it's how it's being used.

          We push out wide at the SCG all the time, instead of going straight up and down.

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          • Bas
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 4457

            #6
            Originally posted by Teasdale77
            I suspect the SCG's deep pockets make it bigger than the 3 grounds above it but honestly I think I wasted my time due to skewed source numbers and irregularly shaped grounds. SCG still looks bloody small to me


            * In geometry, an ellipse is a regular oval shape, traced by a point moving in a plane so that the sum of its distances from two other points (the foci) is constant, or resulting when a cone is cut by an oblique plane that does not intersect the base (get that up ya!)
            Too much carbon tetrahydrochloride in that last brown suit dry clean.
            In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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            • AnnieH
              RWOs Black Sheep
              • Aug 2006
              • 11332

              #7
              Originally posted by Cheer Squad
              It's not the size that counts, it's how it's being used.

              We push out wide at the SCG all the time, instead of going straight up and down.
              Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
              Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
              Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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              • Bas
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 4457

                #8
                Originally posted by AnnieH
                Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
                Is what the opposition supporters do when we push out wide instead of the central thrust.
                In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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                • Cheer Squad
                  Sydney Swans
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 1948

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bas
                  Is what the opposition supporters do when we push out wide instead of the central thrust.
                  Pushing out wide means there's not much penetration up forward. That's why we've been having trouble scoring.

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                  • ScottH
                    It's Goodes to cheer!!
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 23665

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Cheer Squad
                    Pushing out wide means there's not much penetration up forward. That's why we've been having trouble scoring.
                    Works for Collingwood.

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                    • stellation
                      scott names the planets
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 9718

                      #11
                      I love the lack of uniformity in grounds, but that 23.5 metre difference in length between the SCG and Subi is pretty crazy. I appreciate overall ground size isn't that different, but still pretty crazy.
                      I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                      We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                      • RogueSwan
                        McVeigh for Brownlow
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 4602

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SPC
                        Different size of AFL ovals compared to the MCG

                        MCG is 160m long and 141m wide.
                        ...
                        Gabba: -4m length, -3m width
                        ...
                        SCG: -8.5m length, -5m width
                        ...
                        Interesting to see that the grounds close to the MCG in dimensions are all cricket grounds.
                        "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                        • Mr Magoo
                          Senior Player
                          • May 2008
                          • 1255

                          #13
                          Im suprised theres not a rule of the game that says it must be played on a certain sized ground or at least within a size range.

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                          • Untamed Snark
                            Senior Player
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 1375

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mr Magoo
                            Im suprised theres not a rule of the game that says it must be played on a certain sized ground or at least within a size range.
                            There is, it just changes from stadium to stadium
                            Chillin' with the strange Quarks

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                            • BSA5
                              Senior Player
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 2522

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ScottH
                              Works for Collingwood.
                              Yes, but their standards are very low.
                              Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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