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  • Hartijon
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    • May 2008
    • 1536

    #31
    My final word.


    Make of this what you will, this was the week before the Swans game, during the bye


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    • Mr Magoo
      Senior Player
      • May 2008
      • 1255

      #32
      What ? - a two hour session on the weekend of the bye. Surely that pretty much just simulates something similar to a normal match load - Im still not convinced. What s the normal training load in any other week?

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      • SwansFan1972
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        • Nov 2008
        • 621

        #33
        Can't say the Pies are the form team going into the finals, whether they rested that match or not!

        No doubt they didn't give a stuff about winning, but I don't think they planned on an uncompetitive 16 goal thrashing (especially after kicking four straight goals v five behinds to start the game)! I doubt there are many premiership sides through history who can 'boast' a 90 plus point hiding a month out from the grannie!

        This week alone will need a 191 point margin reversal to see them get over the weagles!

        For the superstitious among us, the Wests Tigers are back in town in a big way and looking very good for the NRL premiership. They last won their comp in 2005 .... would love the planets to align and see a repeat of that year's NRL/AFL GF results!

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        • Triple B
          Formerly 'BBB'
          • Feb 2003
          • 6999

          #34
          Originally posted by Hartijon
          QUOTE: Primmy"The boys were all training the house down, including a very confident looking and very very hard working LRT. "

          Thats a report from yesterday. So much for the light training idea!
          Originally posted by Hartijon
          My final word.


          Make of this what you will, this was the week before the Swans game, during the bye


          http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/af...-1226118836298
          Here you go, a few more to clutch at...

          straws.jpg
          Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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          • Bas
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            • Jan 2003
            • 4457

            #35
            Originally posted by Hartijon
            By the way what exactly is "rocket surgery" . It was the one issue in your post I found interesting.
            It's not what the Dogs did to remove Eade;

            Nor is it a story for an Astro Boy episode;

            A Joh Bjelke Peterson moment? Possibly ; But

            I think Triple B meant "Rocket Science". Sounds like he's going through Powerade withdrawal. Has seriously affected me this past few weeks.

            Now that would make an interesting House story.
            In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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            • Doctor
              Bay 29
              • Sep 2003
              • 2757

              #36
              West Coast
              Today's a draft of your epitaph

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              • Bas
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                • Jan 2003
                • 4457

                #37
                Apart from the Swans, I'd love to see West Coast win.
                In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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                • Hartijon
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                  • May 2008
                  • 1536

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Triple B
                  Here you go, a few more to clutch at...

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                  He he,nice try! Unfortunately facts have a way of winning arguments over unsubstantiated opinion and "rocket surgery". Hilarious though! I supplied two factual examples to back my arguments.you supplied straws.That pretty well sums it up.

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                  • Industrial Fan
                    Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 3318

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Bas
                    It's not what the Dogs did to remove Eade;

                    Nor is it a story for an Astro Boy episode;

                    A Joh Bjelke Peterson moment? Possibly ; But

                    I think Triple B meant "Rocket Science". Sounds like he's going through Powerade withdrawal. Has seriously affected me this past few weeks.

                    Now that would make an interesting House story.
                    I'm sure he meant rocket surgery.

                    And yes, following the preseason all the training loads change - and get lighter in the last few weeks of the year leading into the finals.
                    He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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                    • Big Al
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                      • Feb 2005
                      • 7007

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Hartijon
                      He he,nice try! Unfortunately facts have a way of winning arguments over unsubstantiated opinion and "rocket surgery". Hilarious though! I supplied two factual examples to back my arguments.you supplied straws.That pretty well sums it up.
                      An account of 1 training session doesn't prove in my view that overall training intensity has increased. It could be that is normal intensity for that particular session.

                      The Geelong story was about a training session during bye week. My understanding is that clubs during the bye do a session that simulates game intensity to keep the players sharp.

                      It doesn't seem logical to me to increase training intensity overall before finals. Still, I don't attend training at these AFL clubs so only those of us who attend all the time would know what they do.
                      Last edited by Big Al; 8 September 2011, 07:40 AM.
                      ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

                      Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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                      • hot potato
                        Sir Ashmole Gruntbucket
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 1122

                        #41
                        How are you travelling mate? Im bloody knackered Horse.
                        Ok, go and have a surf at Bondi and go home.
                        What about you sunshine.
                        REARIN TO GO BOSS.
                        OK. Do all 20 drills. Spend an hour in the gym and come back out to do 40 mins of goal shooting practice.
                        Surely it comes down to each players current condition.
                        "He was proud of us when we won and he was still proud of us when we lost' Tami Roos about Paul Sept 06.

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                        • Jewels
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                          • Oct 2006
                          • 3258

                          #42
                          Originally posted by hot potato
                          How are you travelling mate? Im bloody knackered Horse.
                          Ok, go and have a surf at Bondi and go home.
                          What about you sunshine.
                          REARIN TO GO BOSS.
                          OK. Do all 20 drills. Spend an hour in the gym and come back out to do 40 mins of goal shooting practice.
                          Surely it comes down to each players current condition.
                          I have no idea at all on what they do this time of year, but your theory sounds the most logical to me Spuds!

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                          • Triple B
                            Formerly 'BBB'
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 6999

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Jewels
                            ....your theory sounds the most logical to me Spuds!
                            Except the bit about the goal kicking practice. Pure fantasy...
                            Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                            • Jewels
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                              • Oct 2006
                              • 3258

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Triple B
                              Except the bit about the goal kicking practice. Pure fantasy...
                              True that.

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                              • Hartijon
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                                • May 2008
                                • 1536

                                #45
                                What some experts say.

                                By Dr Michael McCoy and Dr Noel Duncan from fitness2live.com.au - an online health and wellbeing service for corporate and public organisations and training support for elite sporting bodies.

                                Mike: Conditioning, rehabilitation and nutrition co-ordinator with Richmond FC then Melbourne FC, from 1992-99. Noel: Conditioning, rehabilitation and nutrition co-ordinator with Collingwood FC then Richmond FC, from 1997-2004

                                It is common practice for AFL teams to increase their volume of work in the month leading up to the finals. This then allows a tapering period as the finals arrive. Controlling everything is impossible. But a team's long-term training program is an essential component of preparation that can, and should be, controlled. In the following section we will outline some specific training methods to allow you to hit peak performance at the right time.

                                1.Training to optimise performance between now and the end of the home and away season.
                                2.Training to optimise performance between now and the end of the home and away season, but still have enough in the tank to perform in September.
                                3.Training for optimum performance in September.
                                1. Training to optimise performance between now and the end of August
                                Increasing the volume of work by 25-30% for 2-3 weeks will ensure your players are in peak physical condition. It is important to perform this work early in the week to allow adequate recovery before the next game. The increase in workload can be skill based training but can also include cross training such as swimming, water running, boxing and cycling.

                                2. Training to optimise performance between now and the end of August but leaving enough in the tank to perform in September
                                Winning games late in the season will have an enormous impact on your position on the ladder. As a result, managing the increased workload is critical. There are a number of options which you can choose from:

                                ?Don?t worry about increasing the volume of work. Bank on the fact the maintenance training programs, combined with games, will adequately maintain fitness levels
                                ?Identify the players who have been injured or play at the ends of the ground and increase the volume of work for these players
                                ?Reduce the period of heavy training from three weeks down to 10 days
                                Whatever choice you make, increasing the players' workloads will need to be matched with an increase in recovery techniques.

                                3. Training for optimum performance in September
                                Tapering is an important part of the training process. During the taper phase the volume of training is reduced by as much as 70 per cent. While the volume of training is reduced, the intensity of the sessions remains high. The major benefits resulting from a reduction in training volume include:

                                ?Increases in the body?s energy reserves (muscle glycogen)
                                ?Increases in speed and power
                                ?Increases in co-ordination and agility (neural control)
                                ?Improved state of mind and mental focus

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