Sydney Swans: Most Fans, Least Loyal

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  • CureTheSane
    Carpe Noctem
    • Jan 2003
    • 5032

    #31
    Originally posted by Big Al
    Is it surprising that Melbourne radio mainly discusses teams in Melbourne. They have an audience to cater to after all. It would be the same for Perth radio. I'd say the Weagles and Freo get a fair bit of air time on those stations.

    As for the Fox shows, discussing 17 teams in an hour is a tough gig. I think the Swans get a reasonable run on those shows.
    I for once disagree with Big Al

    If I supported St.Kilda, I'd want to know everything about the Swans.
    Most die hard Saints supporters would know their team inside out, you'd think they'd want to know a bit more about their opposition
    The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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    • CureTheSane
      Carpe Noctem
      • Jan 2003
      • 5032

      #32
      Originally posted by stellation
      When I first read that line I don't think I read it the way you intended!
      Nope that's how I meant it.

      I've been the house hubby this week. They're driving me crazy

      Naw, I did mean that they have lost interest in teh Swans - and that's mainly my fault, but such is life.
      My son won the year 8 footy tipping competitiona nd he selected the Swans every week though
      The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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      • CureTheSane
        Carpe Noctem
        • Jan 2003
        • 5032

        #33
        Originally posted by Nico
        I suspect you also refer to the Collingwood and District Daily, aka the small paper The Herald Sun.

        On those Fox Sports Shows this week you would think Colingwood was playing themselves in the finals. On Football 360 we got a cursory mention about the game being a war. More as an afterthought. In Melbourne they purely pander to the perceived audience. On SEN they give little news or discussion on interstate teams because they need to have a quota of talk back calls, most of which are from 3 or 4 Melbourne teams, plus the favoured "character" callers. If it was Richmond lamenting second bottom it would be done to death., but Port Adelaide; not a cracker. So much for a national competition.
        To be honest, readinga paper is a luxury when I'm at McDonalds
        years ago I had it delivered and it was half an hour killed off every day.
        who has the time?

        What I will say is that I tend to get excited when I hear the Swans being talked about on TV.

        really, like Al said, it is expected.
        we live in Melbourne, so it's cool.
        What I cannot stand is that of the Melbourne teams, currently I would guess that Collingwood get around 50% of all press, Geelong maybe 20%, Hawks & Carlton 20%, and the rest get the last 10%

        I'm kinda biased because I hate the Wobbles so much.
        Maybe I'm just infuriated about it because I hate them so much lol
        The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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        • thejones,s
          On the Rookie List
          • Feb 2008
          • 308

          #34
          well ive been thinking about getting a group of melb based die hard swans fanatics and booking seats at THE HOT SEAT WITH EDDIE..all turn up in our best swans attire..reckon we would get in???

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          • Damien
            Living in 2005
            • Jan 2003
            • 3713

            #35
            My biggest gripe with Fox Sports is that non Victorian teams are referred to as interstate teams! HATE IT. They aren't interstate teams, they are non Victorian teams.

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            • JF_Bay22_SCG
              expat Sydneysider
              • Jan 2003
              • 3978

              #36
              What a dumb article!

              Like it is so hard being loyal to Collingwood at the moment. They leave Melbourne 4 times a year, the MCG stands for "Mainly Collingwood Games", they have lost twice all season. Yeah, times are so tough for Magpie fans at the moment *rolls eyes*

              How full was the Ponsford Stand in the second half last Friday? From what I saw the Pies fans deserted their team in droves as the Cats proceeded to flog them! Would these people have still been around if their club lost 27 games in a row?! They sure weren't when the Pies got the Wooden Spoon in 1999.

              The fact that so many NSW people said their AFL team was the Swans is a positive thing. Plus it shows you the potential for growth in its supporter base as well. Hopefully they watch a game on TV or even better turn up to the SCG one day.

              JF
              "Never ever ever state that Sydney is gone.They are like cockroaches in the aftermath of a nuclear war"
              (Forum poster 'Change', Big Footy 04Apr09)

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              • JF_Bay22_SCG
                expat Sydneysider
                • Jan 2003
                • 3978

                #37
                Originally posted by jono2707
                Gotta love how Roosy does that!

                It's so hard to come across meaningful ongoing dialogue on the AFL in general in Sydney media. There is some but not a great deal. Hopefully GWS will increase the exposure of AFL in Sydney from next year, and not halve the already minimal exposure the Swans get.
                The thing I hate about the Sydney AFL media is that a lot of it is mere puff-writing or 'advertorials'. There is no stinging criticism & a lot of the journos simply cannot think for themselves.Often club media statements are merely taken as fact, when it often simply isn't so.Too many times when a negative article gets written about the Swans, the club in my view gets huffy as if to say "How are we going to draw fans through the gates if you keep writing negative stuff like that!"

                I used to enjoy Jeffs Wells articles, because he not only showed he understood the game but he had the balls to actually say the truth when the Swans played poorly.

                In many ways the Sydney AFL media market is all a bit of a fantasy land. It is as if the Swans marketing department & the journos meet for tea & scones to discuss which player the SMH or Terror should write up this week!

                JF
                "Never ever ever state that Sydney is gone.They are like cockroaches in the aftermath of a nuclear war"
                (Forum poster 'Change', Big Footy 04Apr09)

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                • GongSwan
                  Senior Player
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 1362

                  #38
                  Originally posted by stellation
                  Don't get too excited, RM usually get their stats from phone calls and Internet surveys- if you assume that 50% of Collingwood fans can't afford a phone or Internet access then they'd thump us in numbers!
                  Can't count so no phone, and using a computer takes an IQ above 67 (borderline retarded), Test a few Collingwood supporters, might be fun.

                  Sydney is simple, if they win the average Sydney person loves em, lose and it doesn't matter, sort of moves with the press coverage. The best Swans coverage comes from On the Couch of course, no other footy show rates them a mention, not even now with a final coming up
                  You can't argue with a sick mind - Joe Walsh

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                  • Bloody Hell
                    Senior Player
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 3085

                    #39
                    It's like asking Melbourne people who they support in the NRL. After they're finished with all the diatribe about league I'm sure they'd say the Storm (I see Sheahan mentioned them on OTC), but how many attend games???
                    The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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                    • Bas
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 4457

                      #40
                      Originally posted by JF_Bay22_SCG
                      The fact that so many NSW people said their AFL team was the Swans is a positive thing. Plus it shows you the potential for growth in its supporter base as well. Hopefully they watch a game on TV or even better turn up to the SCG one day.

                      JF
                      I disagree. It's the only AFL team most knuckleheads know up here. That won't make them watch it on TV or turn up at games.

                      The Swans have to market themselves as the "place to be seen" and then in fickle Sydney they will get numbers. As history showed in 86-87 and 2005-2006.

                      They went from weekly packed houses to tumbleweed valley in the early 90's. The team winning or being competitive was a part but not the whole part. Penny might drop for our marketing dept one day.
                      In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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                      • Go Swannies
                        Veterans List
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 5697

                        #41
                        If I'm so fickle why do I have butterflies in my stomach seven hours before first bounce?

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                        • Jewels
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 3258

                          #42
                          They should bring back the "I'd rather be at a Swans game" campaign, that was fantastic!

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                          • Bas
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 4457

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Go Swannies
                            If I'm so fickle why do I have butterflies in my stomach seven hours before first bounce?
                            I've heard your wife has been looking for your hidden stash!

                            I didn't mean you but most of the non committed Swans supporters.
                            In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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                            • DLBIA14
                              On the Rookie List
                              • May 2010
                              • 673

                              #44
                              The marketing department has a lot to answer for. They're not nearly as active as they should be. The odd billboard or crap tv commercial isn't effective at all considering the money they pump into it, It would be smart for them to create a street team of committed swans supporters who cold volunteer to be a part of guerilla or localised marketing campaigns.

                              This thread is full of negativity and cynicism. I was hoping this would be an ideas thread guys! There is lots of smart cookies on this forum; die hard South Melbourne tragics, newly-enlightened Sydneysiders and everyone in between.

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