Pre season Training

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • dimelb
    pr. dim-melb; m not f
    • Jun 2003
    • 6889

    #16
    Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
    is that Nick Smith behind Mike Pyke ???

    it never ceases to amaze me that some of our best players are so far behind our best runners on the 3km run ie spang finishing ahead of Kizza
    Horses for courses - Cheese was outstanding at the 3km time trial ...
    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

    Comment

    • Auntie.Gerald
      Veterans List
      • Oct 2009
      • 6480

      #17
      yeah.....you would think though that maybe the 3km test is not the bench mark after all given that our top 10 players rarely feature in the rankings !

      or maybeeeee it is the benchmark ie only a handful of good 3km runners will actually become a great player......
      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

      Comment

      • Primmy
        Proud Tragic Swan
        • Apr 2008
        • 5970

        #18
        I think the boys are just so competitive about anything sporty that they compete against each other at any level any time. They keep trying to best their own times. Its more about endurance though. How many would be able to keep to the top runners each and every run, day in and day out.
        If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

        Comment

        • stellation
          scott names the planets
          • Sep 2003
          • 9721

          #19
          At the risk of being difficult, and not wanting to ruin the fun for everyone, but what chance the club can post the actual times that people run instead of just pictures of them finishing? Unless I've missed that?
          I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
          We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

          Comment

          • Auntie.Gerald
            Veterans List
            • Oct 2009
            • 6480

            #20
            stella

            they say that because the lads are running on grass and undulating fields etc that it is not a true representation of a 3km track time

            I remember though Cameron Ling used to run 9.30's at Geelong so handy time but once again it might be right on 3km if like the swans pre season course ????
            "be tough, only when it gets tough"

            Comment

            • Nich
              Senior Player
              • May 2010
              • 1291

              #21
              Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
              yeah.....you would think though that maybe the 3km test is not the bench mark after all given that our top 10 players rarely feature in the rankings !

              or maybeeeee it is the benchmark ie only a handful of good 3km runners will actually become a great player......
              Tell me about it. I reckon it's a great thing none of our key players win their 3km runs. The form line from the winner is not that great from memory.

              Comment

              • ShockOfHair
                One Man Out
                • Dec 2007
                • 3668

                #22
                I think the individual times are considered a little too useful to be disclosed. I don't think any club publishes them in full.
                The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

                Comment

                • Shotties
                  Warming the Bench
                  • May 2009
                  • 153

                  #23
                  They don't use a standard course, so the times wouldn't mean anything.

                  Comment

                  • stellation
                    scott names the planets
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 9721

                    #24
                    I did wonder about too much info, but surely opposition clubs are getting who is quick/ who tires quickly already?
                    I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                    We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

                    Comment

                    • Primmy
                      Proud Tragic Swan
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 5970

                      #25
                      Its November Stella, its probably pretty much a moot point until say February....I mean the weight of the mo's has to be factored in before they come off, and all that stuff.
                      I can't think any other club would be bothering at this stage of preseason training; I think they would be more interested in three months time at where they are at then. wouldn't they? I think the boys at this stage are more or less trying to better last year's figures. Competing against their own stats.
                      If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

                      Comment

                      • stellation
                        scott names the planets
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 9721

                        #26
                        Oh yes, I fully appreciate that- it was more just for idle curiosity than anything. In need they could even just print their placing underneath a picture of them crossing the finish line topless.
                        I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                        We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

                        Comment

                        • wolftone57
                          Veterans List
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 5857

                          #27
                          We must be bored to be talking about facial hair but while we are on the subject Reg and Marty could do with a good clean up in that department. They both look like a couple of crims off a 1970's detective program. Maybe the not shaving on game day is to frighten the opposition when they see them coming, it ain't working. I want to see a big mo like Dipper's, I think they modelled Papa Geusseppi on him.

                          Comment

                          • wolftone57
                            Veterans List
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 5857

                            #28
                            I just had a look at the highlights package for Walsh, Morton & Armstrong again. Tony really is a fantastic deliverer of the ball, both in kicking & handball. Morton's skill is freaky and I think at his best he could be the game buster. Walsh was playing FF I noticed on the highlights and seemed to be doing a pretty good job. Good lead and mark, good body position in contests and his kicking is not as bad as was pointed out here on these forums. I don't think he's far away from totally getting the gist of the skills bit. They are all real team players I noticed, giving the ball to a player in a better position every time. Tony's delivery is super & he runs & backs up. I think the recruiting dept have done good!

                            Comment

                            • ShockOfHair
                              One Man Out
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 3668

                              #29
                              Originally posted by stellation
                              I did wonder about too much info, but surely opposition clubs are getting who is quick/ who tires quickly already?
                              I guess it's the accumulation of detail that's as interesting to other clubs as to us. Like if a player goes 20 secs slower - that means he's going to running sand dunes at Xmas (ha).

                              If everyone released their 3km trial figures, they'd cease to be so sensitive. Where's Julian Assange when you need him?
                              The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

                              Comment

                              • Melbourne_Blood
                                Senior Player
                                • May 2010
                                • 3312

                                #30
                                Originally posted by wolftone57
                                I just had a look at the highlights package for Walsh, Morton & Armstrong again. Tony really is a fantastic deliverer of the ball, both in kicking & handball. Morton's skill is freaky and I think at his best he could be the game buster. Walsh was playing FF I noticed on the highlights and seemed to be doing a pretty good job. Good lead and mark, good body position in contests and his kicking is not as bad as was pointed out here on these forums. I don't think he's far away from totally getting the gist of the skills bit. They are all real team players I noticed, giving the ball to a player in a better position every time. Tony's delivery is super & he runs & backs up. I think the recruiting dept have done good!
                                Armstrongs foot skills by foot in that clip were impeccable. Granted it was all from from (i think) the one game against , and there were a lot of passes you would expect league footballers to make most of the time, but thats out problem isn't it. We regularly missed regulation passes last year. Armstrong nailed his with authority ( whilst under pressure) , and never seemed to make it more difficult for the recipeint with his placement, if anything he made it easier ( as it should be). His speed also looked good in that, probably a little better then i thought it was after reading peoples assesments on here. I agree he could be a real bonus for us next year. It will be very intersting to see how the 22 takes shape. If i wasnt such a cricket tragic, and didnt desperately need holidays and some sunshine, i would fast forward to round 1 right now.

                                Comment

                                Working...