Tom Waterhouse joins the Sydney Swans

[CJK]

Should we also remove all TAB facilities from the Grounds as well?

Yes. Yes please.

Was a cold one a few years ago so decided to watch the last ten minutes of the game from the bar at the bottom of the Nobel. TV in the TAB area was showing horse racing and after I flicked it over to the Swans game was almost ejected from the ground by staff.

Apparently watching the game was a no go as we had to have the horses on for the sad degenerate gamblers.

I mean, FFS.

[stellation]

Has the club actually taken a stand against poker machines? Didn't Club Swans have them?

[goswannie14]

Have you actually met him? Or just shooting your mouth off from your keyboard?

I gamble most days. Reading this thread, you'd think I was doing something illegal. Yes I know how big a problem it is but there's plenty out there who gamble and don't have a problem. Same as alcohol, food etc. People who don't gamble clearly think that anyone who does has a problem.

I don't gamble, but being a Salvo means we have to pick up the pieces after people addicted to gambling (in the same way as alcohol) go beyond what they can afford.

The problem I see with this sponsorship is that the club have taken a stand against gambling by not having poker machines, but will accept gambling money from another source.

[goswannie14]

I do understand that but I'm of the opinion that at some stage, you have to help yourself. Everyone wants someone to blame for their problems in this world.

I don't think the sponsorship of a footy club is going to make any difference to problem gambling, positive or negative.

Why would you think the Swans would be above that? We're just a footy club like any other which relies on sponsorship to survive.

I would argue that alcohol is just as big a problem. Should all alcohol sponsorship be removed from society as well? I just don't understand the notion that we should be 'above' something. Why?

I notice you didn't use cigarettes as an example.

[Wardy]

Sure the adds are a bit in yr face but he has just as much right to sponsor the Swans as anyone else. The reaction, too me is a bit over the top. Its no different to when Star city,you know the big gambling joint at Pyrmont, were the shorts sponsor a few years back before the refurb. I don't recall any hoo had back then or is it selective memory? He also may be just as passionate about our club as we are - or isn't he allowed go be that either? Should we also remove all TAB facilities from the Grounds as well? Because hey if Tom has to go then so shouldn't The totes ? bigger problems in the world to worry about than This sponsorship.

[dimelb]

I notice Tom has quietly disappeared from the club webpage.

[Rod_]

It works better if you say 'I guarantee you will finish with a small fortune'.

Just think, you could have given yourself 2 claps then....

I could edit, but I think my point is made


Agree with the reword.

Rod_

[Triple B]

It works better if you say 'I guarantee you will finish with a small fortune'.

Just think, you could have given yourself 2 claps then....

[Rod_]

I will guarantee to make anyone in the forum, a small fortune from Gambling. (100% the honest truth and I guarantee it personally) See Below:




Wait for it



the answer is below



A little further now


Not long now..















You give me a large fortune, and I will give you a small fortune back!


told you it was 100% guaranteed....

Rod_

[ScottH]

I do understand that but I'm of the opinion that at some stage, you have to help yourself. Everyone wants someone to blame for their problems in this world.

I don't think the sponsorship of a footy club is going to make any difference to problem gambling, positive or negative.

Why would you think the Swans would be above that? We're just a footy club like any other which relies on sponsorship to survive.

I would argue that alcohol is just as big a problem. Should all alcohol sponsorship be removed from society as well? I just don't understand the notion that we should be 'above' something. Why?

Asolutely, Agree on all those points, except the second line.
I believe they can make a difference.
The thing is, like any advertising, people now have another easy avenue to squander their hard earned.

[Plugger46]

BUT i have had enough of gambling getting in the way of watching sports for the last 2 years. I don't have to sit through endless gambling ads, don't have to sit through commentators announcing odds, nor do i have to put up with LOUD ads before, during, half time and after the game when i go to a ground. Nor do I have to put up with gamblers telling me i am a wowser because i dont want to put up with any of the factors i mentioned.

I can understand that. It is over the top, no question.

[J_Moore]

Have you actually met him? Or just shooting your mouth off from your keyboard?

I gamble most days. Reading this thread, you'd think I was doing something illegal. Yes I know how big a problem it is but there's plenty out there who gamble and don't have a problem. Same as alcohol, food etc. People who don't gamble clearly think that anyone who does has a problem.

Yes to both your questions.

[WeHaveTheGoodes]

Have no problem with others gambling away their money, stupidity comes in all forms and sizes.

BUT i have had enough of gambling getting in the way of watching sports for the last 2 years. I don't have to sit through endless gambling ads, don't have to sit through commentators announcing odds, nor do i have to put up with LOUD ads before, during, half time and after the game when i go to a ground. Nor do I have to put up with gamblers telling me i am a wowser because i dont want to put up with any of the factors i mentioned.

So sad that the swans have decided to take this guys sponosrship $.

[Danzar]

I agree, I like to spend my $ on hookers and that's legal so the sooner the Swans get a brothel sponsor with member special offers (eg buy one get one free?) then so much the better.

Hey! Don't you sully the reputation of the world's oldest profession by comparing it to Tom Waterhouse thanks very much!

[Plugger46]

Many people like yourself can gamble within their means (I'm assuming this is correct), but there are many that others that can't.
The AFL last year were trying to reduce the amount of live promotion of gambling, such as display the odds at every qtr of the game.
I think it's more about responsible promotion of sponsors.
I know St Kilda is sponsored by Centrebet, I just thought the swans would be above that.
But then it's a gamble they were willing to take.

I do understand that but I'm of the opinion that at some stage, you have to help yourself. Everyone wants someone to blame for their problems in this world.

I don't think the sponsorship of a footy club is going to make any difference to problem gambling, positive or negative.

Why would you think the Swans would be above that? We're just a footy club like any other which relies on sponsorship to survive.

I would argue that alcohol is just as big a problem. Should all alcohol sponsorship be removed from society as well? I just don't understand the notion that we should be 'above' something. Why?