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  • sharp9
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2003
    • 2508

    What I'm looking forward to....

    Is the Swans playing at OR NEAR their best for four full quarters. That is what the top teams do week in week out. here's a curious thing... beat a contender by 13 points - we lead by 45 points, yet nearly everyone is unhappy. Why? If we had won against a contender by 13 points with 17 lead changes (like the Hawks/Geelong or Freo/Geelong or Sydney/Essaden (2011) games) we would all be @@@@-a-hoop.

    The trouble with our team remains THE SAME AS IT HAS BEEN FOR FIVE YEARS and that is why we are frustrated/worried and not penciling in anything even APPROACHING a top 4 finish.

    The trouble is week in week out we spend at least a quarter and half NOT SCORING (and getting badly outscored)....whether that be through sudden drop in intensity, shocking disposal errors, bad umpiring, poor decision making, tired legs, giving away stupid free kicks/50s or all of the above...we do it EVERY week. Even against poor teams like GWS.

    I have absolutely no idea how we lengthen the amount of time we play well for....coaches job but until we do it we are not contenders.

    At this stage there is still a chance we COULD manage it because the gap between where we are and what we need to do is actually quite narrow. In another thread I highlighted 6 or 7 errors which cost us at least 40 points. Just 6 or 7 bits of play where if the player had done what he is perfectly capable of doing and we would have beaten a contender by 50 points...then we could get a teensy bit excited.

    Errors as simple as 1) don't drop an uncontested chest mark at CHB 2) pick up a simple bouncing ball at HFF off the back of a pack 3) don't drop an uncontested handball and THEN fail to kick it to a man on his own in the square.

    Seriously simple errors which we absolutely CAN get rid of.

    There will always be disposal shockers - but as long as they are not in the worst parts of the ground they won't cause us to actually lose games.

    All teams have disposal clangers so there's no need to really sweat those. As long as we clean up the DUMB errors we can contend. Really.

    Birdy pick up the frickin' ball!

    OK so the comeback to that is "we haven't cleaned up the dumb errors for the past five years of trying!"

    To which I say...."yes, but we COULD!"

    The other thing we NEED is a second tall forward...WC have Darling, Kennedy and Lynch PLUS a resting ruckman (Naitanui or Cox)

    Hawkins and Podsiadly
    Cloke and Dawes
    Waite and...well somebody

    IMHO Seaby, Mumford, LRT, Pyke or whoever the 2 ruckmen are need to be the 3rd tall when not in the ruck. The Hawks and Geelong might go in with only one TRUE ruckman....but the backup ruck is a FORWARD who can ruck not a Ruckman who goes forward.

    Should have picked Darling when we had the chance. BIG error there (did we get Lamb instead?).
    "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005
  • goswannie14
    Leadership Group
    • Sep 2005
    • 11166

    #2
    Could be worse, we could have been up by three goals at 3/4 time and lost by 2 points!

    IIRC they are supposed to be a top team!
    Does God believe in Atheists?

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    • R-1
      Senior Player
      • Aug 2005
      • 1042

      #3
      Freo are a strong side. Getting the win is good even with the fadeout, and we did hold firm for an extended period of time in the last quarter evne with them winning the clearances.

      Some of the blame/credit has to go to Freo for the second half on the weekend. They threw extra numbers forward, took the risk, played to their strengths and it nearly worked. That's why Lyon's a highly rated coach. If Freo weren't so poor in the first half it would have been an arm-wrestle the whole match and we wouldn't be worried about the fadeout.

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      • jono2707
        Goes up to 11
        • Oct 2007
        • 3326

        #4
        Sorry was there a point to this thread?

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        • goswannie14
          Leadership Group
          • Sep 2005
          • 11166

          #5
          Originally posted by jono2707
          Sorry was there a point to this thread?
          Why should this thread be any different to the others on here?
          Does God believe in Atheists?

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          • CureTheSane
            Carpe Noctem
            • Jan 2003
            • 5032

            #6
            I think this thread has a point.
            It is frustrating for me also.
            This isn't directed at the Freo game, but all most games.
            I would say it's the way they're coached.
            "In the bag, slow it down, don't get injured"
            Compare this to Geelong or Collingwood and they play the game out.
            We NEVER absolutely pump teams any more.
            I like watching us go on with it and dominate....
            The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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            • WeHaveTheGoodes
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Mar 2012
              • 259

              #7
              Originally posted by jono2707
              Sorry was there a point to this thread?
              Very valid thread and the op raises points which are exactly the reason why i am not as optimistic as most on this site. We make so many unnecessary errors which we then spend time trying to clean up. It's been the same since 2006. It seems sometimes some of the lads concentrate too much on the game plan that they force themselves into making those stupid clangers! Also playing the tight contested footy we do creates a lot of pressure...but champion teams can over come these factors.

              I also agree with the second tall comment. Tall forwards are back in vogue and we don't really have a two man forward combo.

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              • sharp9
                Senior Player
                • Jan 2003
                • 2508

                #8
                Originally posted by jono2707
                Sorry was there a point to this thread?
                My apologies for writing detail instead of just a soundbite
                1) Trying to be positive (remember the "rules" thread?) and say LOOKING FORWARD to 4 quarter effort - instead of bagging our repeated penchant for going missing for a quarter and a hlf every game.
                2) Staying positive and noting that there are just a handful of EASILY FIXABLE errors which are costing us 40 points a game
                3) Suggesting that we won't fix our scoring problems till we have TWO tall forwards (one of whom will probably be the back-up ruckman as well) - Horse seems to agree with me, picking White ahead of Seaby when Mumford fit
                "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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