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  • johnno
    On the Rookie List
    • Apr 2008
    • 1102

    Mark Seaby

    Something needs to be done here. I find it incredibly unfair that this guy is going to be automatically dropped the second Mummy is right. Yes, I know Mummy is the better option, but so far this year and many times last year when Mummy was injured/suspended, Seaby has come in and has more than just done the job, I think he's been outstanding.

    I know we've tried at least 2 times that I can think of, maybe 3 times to play them together and it hasn't worked, but something needs to be done to allow Seaby to retain his spot when Mummy comes back in. I just thinks its unfair to drop him when he's done notheing wrong and played well.

    Any suggestions?
    Last edited by johnno; 22 April 2012, 10:09 PM.
  • longmile
    Crumber
    • Apr 2011
    • 3360

    #2
    Trade him to another team for a genuine forward.
    Win-win. I like Seaby though

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    • S120
      On the Rookie List
      • Apr 2011
      • 166

      #3
      I agree that he's been great and I've always been a fan of his as the insurance policy to Mummy. He's capable of being a number one ruckman in the AFL, I have no doubt. But unfortunately, we cannot carry Mummy and Seaby I believe in the one side in order to run with the best sides. Seaby is great to have on the list for when Mummy isn't right to go but he ought to know now that he is merely the insurance policy. He's just not athletic enough to play 70% forward IMO.

      White I thought did a very good job as the 2nd ruck today incidentally.

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      • S120
        On the Rookie List
        • Apr 2011
        • 166

        #4
        Seaby was the best ruckman on the ground I thought too, for what it's worth.

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        • aardvark
          Veterans List
          • Mar 2010
          • 5685

          #5
          Originally posted by S120
          Seaby was the best ruckman on the ground I thought too, for what it's worth.
          Yes. He won the hit out battle against Goldy and McIntosh. Mummy is the better ruckman but if we keep playing only one ruckman Seaby is probably going to get plenty of games.

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          • ScottH
            It's Goodes to cheer!!
            • Sep 2003
            • 23665

            #6
            Seaby played really well.
            Best game he's played for a while.
            Won majority of the ruck work, 2nd efforts, standing in the defence Goal square.
            Just not as coordinated as Mummy.

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            • J_Moore
              On the Rookie List
              • Jul 2009
              • 74

              #7
              He was great. His failing port's medical was a blessing. Ruckmen get injured all the time, and is a hard position to fill. Keeping a second string experienced ruck on the list is a good move, provided he is happy to play the reserve role.

              Ok, ok, they're both great teams.

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              • The_Jam
                On the Rookie List
                • Sep 2011
                • 36

                #8
                I think this is just one of those cruel aspect of sport (and life). Mummy is an out'n'out champion and Seaby will probably never have as much impact week to week, despite being more than serviceable week to week. It is not fair, keeping a consistent performer in the reserves, but then again, how many people dream of playing one AFL game and never get to. So I probably shouldn't be crying for the bloke.

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                • Kirkari
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 1036

                  #9
                  I feel for him. He really is a fantastic ruckman. I am VERY excited for the options we have to mix and match against the opposition. "Stewardship" of players is supposedly all the rage and I think we have a fantastic opportunity to get the most from two VERY talented players. Tricky but Horse seems to be a smart man.

                  Edit - "fantastic" being my word of the day... ;-)
                  Superman still wears Brett Kirk Pyjamas

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                  • Beerman
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 823

                    #10
                    Totally agree with most comments on this thread. I know Mark slightly as he goes to the church I am part of and a close friend sees him each week. Let's just say I don't think he much enjoys the reserves (compared to the firsts - who would) and I would love to see him play more often. His form was great in 2010 and I feel that he doesn't get enough games to play himself back into that form - he seems to improve the more he plays.

                    Unfortunately, he plays better as a first ruckman and "there can be only one". I for one am hoping that Mumford is well enough to play for us on Sunday as we need to do well against Hawthorn to show we're a genuine chance at the top 4 and they've got me worried.

                    I take some consolation that Seabs already has a premiership medallion (do the AFL players get rings?) and there are plenty of great players who don't have one of those.

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                    • ernie koala
                      Senior Player
                      • May 2007
                      • 3251

                      #11
                      I'm also a Seaby fan...but Mumford is better...
                      If Mummy is out, I suspect Seaby will be even better this week.
                      As said above, he seems to play better with the continuity of being the starting ruckman....so either way it's good for the Swans.
                      No other team wanted him last year...that's our gain.
                      Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                      • Dirtyburt
                        Suspended by the MRP
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 853

                        #12
                        Originally posted by johnno
                        Any suggestions?
                        yes, pick your best 22 on that criteria alone, bugger unfair.

                        Ask Seaby if he wants to be in the side because it's unfair or on sentiment.

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                        • Beerman
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 823

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dirtyburt
                          yes, pick your best 22 on that criteria alone, bugger unfair.

                          Ask Seaby if he wants to be in the side because it's unfair or on sentiment.
                          I think he'd rather be in the side, actually, whatever the reason

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                          • Matimbo
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 334

                            #14
                            If the interchange rule was back to the old setup ( i.e. no stupid red vest), would Seaby be in our best 22? I think yes. We know this rule change has pretty much excluded the 2nd ruckman in most sides.
                            CIA Agent to Policeman: "Have you ever had anti-terrorist training?"
                            Policeman: "Yes, I was married once."

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                            • Hartijon
                              On the Rookie List
                              • May 2008
                              • 1536

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Beerman
                              I think he'd rather be in the side, actually, whatever the reason
                              He is our Stuart McGill.No one has mentioned the effect of him being there on Mummy who cannot afford to play badly.His prescence and ability to come in and perform keeps Mummy honest.I also think its crazy to overwork Mummy. Seaby will get plenty of chances if we keep overworking Mummy.I also think its a myth that the top sides play only one ruckman.

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