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  • wolftone57
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2008
    • 5835

    #16
    Originally posted by Bloody Hell
    More likely coming into their prime...18+7=25
    Totally Free Agency is 10 years service. Partial Free Agency is 8 years service. Most AFL players start their career at 19 these days so they are 27 with Partial and 29 with full if they get to play in their 19th year. In my opinion I would not look at players who are 28 or 29 because of their limited viability.
    Last edited by wolftone57; 2 June 2012, 03:10 AM.

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    • wolftone57
      Veterans List
      • Aug 2008
      • 5835

      #17
      Originally posted by GongSwan
      We probably need to start looking for young HBF and running players, maybe another inside mid to go with JPK, Parker and next year Mitchell. Still think we need more speed in the legs, ability to spread and run forward on the rebound, while it would be nice to have a FF of Clokes ability, he's not much good if the ball never gets there or comes in like a balloon and there's no support at ground level. The players on this list are mainly older, I'd rather add young players to grow with the core we have now
      I don't think our mids are the problem I think we have been killed on the set up in the mids a few times this year. We need another tall Back player. We have forwards if they ever get to play in the Seniors this year. We need a new young ruck! Bring Mitchell into the equation and I'm telling you we won't lose many mid contests. Biggs should be taken off the rookie list and put on the main list. As much as Harry is exciting Biggs is consistent and so bloody good in his efficiency. He has been in the best players every week since he came back from injury and that tells me he is performing consistently. I have seen this kid play and I believe he is a very special talent. He has the innate ability to read the play and his delivery is superb!

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      • goswannie14
        Leadership Group
        • Sep 2005
        • 11166

        #18
        Originally posted by wolftone57
        Totally Free Agency is 10 years service. Partial Free Agency is 8 years service. Most AFL players start their career at 19 these days so they are 27 with Partial and 29 with full if they get to play in their 19th year. In my opinion I would not look at players who are 28 or 29 because of their limited viability.
        If North Melbourne had thought that way in the 70's they wouldn't have won two flags. This free agency is just the same as the now defunct 10 year rule that allowed North to build a premiership team with Barassi at thw helm. Rantall, Wade etc etc were all players who had played 10 years with their original clubs.
        Does God believe in Atheists?

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        • BillyRayCypress
          On the Rookie List
          • May 2012
          • 1379

          #19
          To be a free agent, you have to become a secret agent first.

          Seems no one is chasing any of our guys. Unless its a secret.

          Time to start the O'Keefe rumours to Carlton again. RWO posters have already proved that Goodes is not happy with Longmire, so wouldn't Eddie be keen to get him down to the Mugpies.

          It would free a considerable amount of money in our cap to trade for a Suns or GWS yet unsigned up and coming star.

          Sadly Goodes has reached the stage like Crouch before him. Body breaks down.
          Nothing like a good light bulb moment.

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          • BillyRayCypress
            On the Rookie List
            • May 2012
            • 1379

            #20
            Originally posted by wolftone57
            Totally Free Agency is 10 years service. Partial Free Agency is 8 years service. Most AFL players start their career at 19 these days so they are 27 with Partial and 29 with full if they get to play in their 19th year. In my opinion I would not look at players who are 28 or 29 because of their limited viability.
            Won Collingwood a Premiership 2 years ago.

            So you might have to keep your eyes closed with this one. Although Swans don't have the other players to support mature players.
            Nothing like a good light bulb moment.

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            • GongSwan
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2009
              • 1362

              #21
              Originally posted by BillyRayCypress
              To be a free agent, you have to become a secret agent first.

              Seems no one is chasing any of our guys. Unless its a secret.

              Time to start the O'Keefe rumours to Carlton again. RWO posters have already proved that Goodes is not happy with Longmire, so wouldn't Eddie be keen to get him down to the Mugpies.

              It would free a considerable amount of money in our cap to trade for a Suns or GWS yet unsigned up and coming star.

              Sadly Goodes has reached the stage like Crouch before him. Body breaks down.
              This qualifies as teh most ridiculous post ever seen. Trade Goodes? which team do u follow, clearly not a Swans supporter
              You can't argue with a sick mind - Joe Walsh

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              • Melbourne_Blood
                Senior Player
                • May 2010
                • 3312

                #22
                I'd hardly call Goodes injury prone, this is the only time I can remember him missing games through injury.

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                • Dosser
                  Just wild about Harry
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 1833

                  #23
                  Goodes is on the veterans list so isnt half of his salary not included in the cap?

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                  • GongSwan
                    Senior Player
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 1362

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Dosser
                    Goodes is on the veterans list so isnt half of his salary not included in the cap?
                    Clearly, looking at the rules around veterans he would be. I think this is the reason for moving B1 and ROK out of teh middle this year, to both give the younger players a chance to prove themselves and to try to get another year out of our veterans. Maybe teh Swans have a big name player in their sights for next year
                    You can't argue with a sick mind - Joe Walsh

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                    • BillyRayCypress
                      On the Rookie List
                      • May 2012
                      • 1379

                      #25
                      Originally posted by GongSwan
                      This qualifies as teh most ridiculous post ever seen. Trade Goodes? which team do u follow, clearly not a Swans supporter
                      Free agency, means they are free to leave. No trade done.

                      So which person would knock back a mega deal if offered because of supporters. Did Paul Roos consider that when he left to come to the Swans.

                      Crouch didn't miss games till near the end either.

                      Can't see Goodes leaving Sydney anyway. GWS perhaps? Them $3:90 chips are very enticing.
                      Nothing like a good light bulb moment.

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                      • Dosser
                        Just wild about Harry
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1833

                        #26
                        I think Roos considered the fact that his club was quickly dying when he left.

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                        • GongSwan
                          Senior Player
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 1362

                          #27
                          Goodes would have to be traded because he is under contract. Yr only a free agent if yr not signed
                          You can't argue with a sick mind - Joe Walsh

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                          • Cpt. Kirk
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 351

                            #28
                            Originally posted by BillyRayCypress
                            Free agency, means they are free to leave. No trade done.

                            So which person would knock back a mega deal if offered because of supporters. Did Paul Roos consider that when he left to come to the Swans.

                            Crouch didn't miss games till near the end either.

                            Can't see Goodes leaving Sydney anyway. GWS perhaps? Them $3:90 chips are very enticing.
                            Goodes wouldn't take money to go anywhere else he is a captain of a footy club to do that would be disgusting and would ruin his reputation within the footy community. Goodes is a blood through and through and any captain that would leave his club for any amount of money should be treated like an outcast. Even if goodes wasn't the captain he would never leave there will be a statue of him outside the scg in 20 years. One of the best players to ever put on the swans uniform if not the best(sorry Skilton).

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                            • Auntie.Gerald
                              Veterans List
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 6474

                              #29
                              what a pick up Trav would be



                              There must be a lot of attention for Ben Reid also !!!
                              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                              • DLBIA14
                                On the Rookie List
                                • May 2010
                                • 673

                                #30
                                It's ridiculous to suggest the Swans or Goodes would consider parting ways. One of the dumbest things said on this board all things considered.

                                On the topic of Cloke, it would be naive to think the Swans haven't expressed some interest. We are a key forward away from seriously contending for the premiership. This current group of players hasn't got much more time together, so if we wanted a tilt we need to be aggressive this trade period.

                                Nevertheless, I don't think Cloke is coming our way. The Pies are under some pressure though so players like Sidebottom and Reid who have yet to sign may be squeezed out. Interesting to see the fallout at Collingwood.

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